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the planet's puppet masters almost

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surely have a plan

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there's clearly maybe something there

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beyond the realm of man

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until we've thoroughly tested every last

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find the more you think you know unless

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you really do

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where would we be will our thc

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we know the lying to us just don't know

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company

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here we go higher side chatters i hope

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your seat backs and tray tables are in

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the upright lock position and you're

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properly strapped in because today we're

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taking one hell of a ride

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through a legendary mystery and an

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occulted code that will lead us through

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a trail of famous documents

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landmarks sacred geometry and just the

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sort of legendary characters that one

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would expect these sorts of codes to

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come from

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and like many threads of this nature it

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speaks of advanced knowledge and deeply

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profound spiritual truths considered

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heresy to the ironclad control of

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religious authorities and the old-time

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gatekeepers of truth

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it is a fascinating real-life da vinci

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code journey and the cornerstone of this

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mystery revolves around the works of

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shakespeare whose true identity of

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course is itself a highly debated

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mystery

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which just adds that much more icing to

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an already overcrowded cake to be cut

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and served by today's guest alan greene

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not only has that sweet synchronicity

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guided allen down the path of

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discovering this intricate mystery

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but he's also a classically trained

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pianist composer author educator and

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shakespeare authorship scholar

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he was also the musical director for

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davey jones of the monkees for several

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years and co-authored with jones two

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best-selling award-winning books they

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made a monkey out of me and mutant

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monkeys

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his first academic book decoding

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shakespeare was released in september

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2016 and it documents the role of dr

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john d alchemist astrologer and the

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leading cryptographer of the renaissance

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and the greatest literary cover-up of

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all time since then he's been working on

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many forms of media in which to reveal

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that which has been concealed

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from just up the five highway in the

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city of angels the bard code breaker the

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shakespeare mystery shaker alan greene

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welcome to the higher side thank you

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greg pleasure to be here

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yes man thanks for doing this you really

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are ground zero for a

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very unique and fascinating discovery

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and it is a real pleasure to have you

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this is exactly the kind of thing we

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love and this interview

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has kind of been in the works for a long

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time it's almost been a full year

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since we first tried to schedule it but

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those nasty

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california wildfires got in the way and

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you know the universe tends to know when

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the time is right and in the last year

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some new layers have been added as well

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as new media projects related to this

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and so here we are here we are looking

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forward to it

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yes and to kick this off let me just ask

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you to grease the wheels a bit

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by just reminding people why

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shakespeare's writing is so unique and

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legendary and why his identity

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is such a mystery you know i

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didn't know a thing about shakespeare

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when i was introduced to this

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almost 15 years ago and i consider that

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a blessing because it meant i wasn't

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hobbled by

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any of the typical

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academic story that we

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the history of shakespeare who he was

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so i got introduced to it by a friend of

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who just invited me to see a one-man

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show he was

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producing in los angeles about the

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shakespeare mystery but i knew nothing

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about it and in fact i wasn't

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the least bit interested i'd actually

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an aversion to it my whole life which

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is interesting in itself because as i

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say it sort of gave me a clean slate

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to come on board without any

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preconceived

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notions but my friend introduced me to

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it i saw his show

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and what he essentially brought out at

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floored me and now they can be it can be

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summed up in just a few sentences

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there is essentially no paper trail

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for shakespeare concerning at least

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poetry

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and playwriting there are no manuscripts

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there are no plays no poems no letters

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not a page another line written in his

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that in itself is because there's plenty

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of information for all the other

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playwrights and poets of the time and

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since he was the star

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of that time it's just it just

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makes you think well why would that be

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greatest writer ever

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never wrote a letter to anybody and no

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one ever

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uh delivered one to him

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one apparently was found that was never

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opened and that's absolutely it one

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somebody wrote something to him and it

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never was opened so this has been a huge

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anyway since he is widely considered

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the the greatest western writer of all

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whether or not you understand him or

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even like him

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is beside the point i think we all

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intuitively understand that we

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should you know if you're invited to a

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shakespeare play you think you know

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maybe i won't get it but you end up

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and and being surprised like oh i

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laughed myself silly or i cried or

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it hit me on so many levels i didn't

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understand 90 of it

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but so he there's something about the

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works

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that is eternal and makes it just as

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important and and recognizable

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today as it was 400 years ago

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and so anyway that i just got bitten by

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the bug of why would there be no paper

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trail

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there are very very few facts about the

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man from stratford

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who we are told was shakespeare and

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those facts have nothing whatsoever to

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do with

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playwriting or poetry mark twain wrote a

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book

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uh called is shakespeare dead in which

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he decided he would

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basically curate together all the

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information that we had

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provable facts that we had about him and

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they might amount to about 72

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facts um five pages maybe double spaced

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and that's it and it's all they're all

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about real estate and

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and the various things that he was known

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to have been

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involved in they couldn't find him for

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tax evasion he was

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convicted of hoarding grain or rather

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accused of hoarding grain during a

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famine

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and trying to gouge his neighbors for

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the price

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of corn and yet then apparently going

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back to london and saying the quality of

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mercy is not strained

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proper that's the gentle rain from

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wherever

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a lot of stuff that just doesn't make

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sense and many many many great minds for

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the past couple of hundred years

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have just not been able to make that

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connection

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well from waldo probably waldo emerson

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uh walt whitman many people all the

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biggest names in philosophy

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and the literature of the time i've

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always said can't be this guy

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who never traveled anywhere and yet

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knows it'll be like the back of his hand

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so that was the background for me was

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wow there's a mystery i think i'll write

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about this

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and i started writing about it the very

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next day after i was introduced

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to it and my natural bent was to write a

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musical because that's what i

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i do but soon after starting the musical

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and getting into the research i realized

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this story went very very very deep

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and i started to realize the more i

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looked into it

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that it was going to be a long long

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project

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if i was to be able to write about it

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intelligently so that's how it started

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and i'm sure for most people

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we don't know that i didn't know that i

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didn't know that there was no

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paper trailing yet what are all these

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books about there are

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maybe a hundred thousand books about

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shakespeare

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all saying he probably did this and he

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must have done that and no doubt he went

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here

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and assumed we assumed he did this i

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mean it's

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all conjectured because there is no

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history you could just literally

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state the history academically in five

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minutes and then get on with the place

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and so people say

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well it doesn't really matter we have

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the plays and they have the coins and

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that's what matters so

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it really doesn't matter who wrote it

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but

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um there's a lot of hints

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in the plays and the poems that say no

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no no there's something

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else going on here and so i got bitten

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by that bug

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and i haven't had a day off since

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that is a great introduction and you

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were right it is very strange

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that there are no original manuscripts

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no handwritten

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things by shakespeare only these typed

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plays and we have i guess six original

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signatures

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but they're all different and they

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relate to his will

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and land purchases legal documents and

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so

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it is a mystery even that those six

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signatures are so weird and don't match

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up at all

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and anyone who has tried to digest the

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material itself it is legendarily dense

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and difficult

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and like you said you might not

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understand all of it but you still get a

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sense that there is deep wisdom

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contained within and even just the

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structure of his work is interesting

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i mean i'm not a literary expert so i

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don't know the technical terms but i

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think it's fascinating that

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he has this five syllable pattern for a

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lot of stuff but then there's also a

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separate

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rhyme scheme of a pattern of four

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syllables for

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beings who are magical or are fairies

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and then of course the fool

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and his tales usually says the deepest

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truths or has the most wisdom

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so this is all kind of in that soup of

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what

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secret societies and sacred knowledge

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and all that kind of stuff this is kind

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of

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it involves the same rapping in a sense

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yeah

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you've done your homework right i try i

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try i got one job right it's to do that

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homework

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those those six signatures are are are

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key

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also because they are all spelled

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differently and

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really hardly even legible so that's a

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that's

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a very strange thing for him to have

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left not even handwriting experts

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can agree they were all written by the

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same person and as you said three are on

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the will

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his last will and testament

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probably were written by clerks

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who were putting his will together

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so we really don't know it's just it

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just doesn't make sense that there would

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be this

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enormous vacuum no one spoke

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contemporaneously about having seen him

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down the pub you know oh i met will last

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night

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after we saw king lear and we were

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having a beer

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and he was talking about his next

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production and

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there's none of that we start seeing

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writings about him

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uh afterwards years and years and years

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afterwards

389
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um but actual people who

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identified that they saw the actual

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writer there's a couple of references to

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oh well

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shakespeare at the time but only in

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reference to

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the the printing of the name on some of

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the plays

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and that it's quite possible

398
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that that was a pen name because it was

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in some hyphenated in about half of them

400
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hyphenated and hyphenations were a

401
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common way of

402
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suggesting a pen name but you know all

403
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together none of the none of that is

404
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conclusive or

405
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provable and so it's very difficult when

406
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you get into

407
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stating certain ideas about

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why there's a mystery because the onus

409
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is on

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well let's let's split it into certain

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categories

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uh so that people understand the man

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we're taught

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about is from stratford-upon-avon and so

415
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the people who believe he was

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shakespeare

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are called stratfordians there are

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other categories of people who believe

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now it couldn't have been

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this illiterate he certainly came from

421
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an illiterate family

422
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derek jacob he says a wonderful thing

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about the family he says you know you've

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got illiterate

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through the generations he's illiterate

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illiterate illiterate illiterate

427
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greatest writer ever illiterate i mean

428
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his daughters didn't learn to

429
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read and write i mean that's a hard

430
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thing to wrap your head around

431
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that the guy would come home and say wow

432
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a hard day the office writing hamlet

433
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today

434
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it doesn't make much sense and he never

435
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traveled anywhere and he's got this

436
00:15:52,629 --> 00:15:50,000
massive knowledge

437
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there's no evidence of an education even

438
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just he knows

439
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seemingly everything about everything

440
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and encompassed in the plays from

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uh mathematics to astronomy to botany to

442
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all seafaring and navigation and

443
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mathematics and

444
00:16:11,829 --> 00:16:11,040
the law you know i mean how does he know

445
00:16:15,829 --> 00:16:11,839
all this stuff

446
00:16:19,189 --> 00:16:15,839
he had to have had access to an enormous

447
00:16:21,069 --> 00:16:19,199
library um so anyway it's very hard

448
00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:21,079
anyway to state

449
00:16:26,629 --> 00:16:24,160
categorically oh i i believe it's

450
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not that person it's this person not

451
00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:28,240
many people have

452
00:16:33,430 --> 00:16:31,040
as i say for about 200 years there were

453
00:16:35,189 --> 00:16:33,440
people who believed it was francis bacon

454
00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:35,199
people who believe it's christopher

455
00:16:37,749 --> 00:16:36,880
marlowe people who believe it's queen

456
00:16:41,110 --> 00:16:37,759
elizabeth

457
00:16:43,749 --> 00:16:41,120
people who believe it's edward the 17th

458
00:16:45,189 --> 00:16:43,759
of oxford and all these beliefs are

459
00:16:48,389 --> 00:16:45,199
bolstered by their own

460
00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:48,399
individual research and it's wrong to

461
00:16:51,670 --> 00:16:49,279
either

462
00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:51,680
say yeah they're right or no this is

463
00:16:56,150 --> 00:16:52,720
rubbish because

464
00:16:58,069 --> 00:16:56,160
there isn't enough concrete evidence so

465
00:17:02,230 --> 00:16:58,079
what i went looking for was

466
00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:02,240
actual concrete physical evidence

467
00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:05,280
and i found that that was present

468
00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:08,400
in in codes that i had discovered and

469
00:17:12,630 --> 00:17:09,760
many people also had

470
00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:12,640
uh in on the search for codes for many

471
00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:14,160
many years as well

472
00:17:18,630 --> 00:17:16,720
but i just happened to stumble upon what

473
00:17:20,549 --> 00:17:18,640
i believe was the right way to decode it

474
00:17:23,829 --> 00:17:20,559
and once having done that

475
00:17:25,829 --> 00:17:23,839
uh was on a journey to actually

476
00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:25,839
prove that scientifically which we'll

477
00:17:31,590 --> 00:17:28,720
get into later i'm sure

478
00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:31,600
yes it is quite amazing and wikipedia

479
00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:32,000
lists

480
00:17:37,270 --> 00:17:35,200
87 different candidates and

481
00:17:38,390 --> 00:17:37,280
there is just a mountain of work that

482
00:17:40,630 --> 00:17:38,400
has been done that

483
00:17:43,270 --> 00:17:40,640
leads to many different possibilities it

484
00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:43,280
is like a jfk assassination rabbit hole

485
00:17:46,470 --> 00:17:43,919
or something

486
00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:46,480
yeah and now let's back up a little bit

487
00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:47,520
and talk about

488
00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:49,600
your personal story because the longer i

489
00:17:52,390 --> 00:17:50,880
live the more i find

490
00:17:54,150 --> 00:17:52,400
life planned out more like a

491
00:17:55,830 --> 00:17:54,160
well-written plot than just a bunch of

492
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random occurrences as they'd have us

493
00:17:58,870 --> 00:17:56,640
believe

494
00:18:00,710 --> 00:17:58,880
and several threads in your life are

495
00:18:01,990 --> 00:18:00,720
full of the kind of synchronicity that

496
00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:02,000
defies logic

497
00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:04,720
talk to us about your path through say

498
00:18:07,909 --> 00:18:06,240
the music industry a bit your

499
00:18:09,110 --> 00:18:07,919
realizations about the power of

500
00:18:11,029 --> 00:18:09,120
manifestation

501
00:18:13,029 --> 00:18:11,039
and how it kind of ties into this big

502
00:18:16,870 --> 00:18:13,039
story

503
00:18:18,789 --> 00:18:16,880
yeah well yeah let's go back then

504
00:18:21,510 --> 00:18:18,799
right to the to the beginning i don't

505
00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:21,520
mean to dwell on it overly but

506
00:18:25,430 --> 00:18:24,720
it's it is pertinent and it will come

507
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full

508
00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:28,799
circle so i don't like to sound as

509
00:18:32,990 --> 00:18:29,200
though

510
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i'm reeling off a list of

511
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accomplishments because that's not the

512
00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:36,400
purpose in fact

513
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what i'm going to tell you is more or

514
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less to point out the the folly of

515
00:18:44,549 --> 00:18:44,000
youth and particularly of my youth to

516
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say

517
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oh i thought i had it all together i did

518
00:18:50,470 --> 00:18:48,480
this i did that

519
00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:50,480
so as i say these things don't don't

520
00:18:53,270 --> 00:18:51,760
take them in in that

521
00:18:54,789 --> 00:18:53,280
vein because you're gonna we're gonna

522
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come to a point where

523
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i have a comeuppance recognition i'd

524
00:19:01,270 --> 00:18:59,760
better sort myself out because all this

525
00:19:05,590 --> 00:19:01,280
sort of manifesting

526
00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:05,600
it's very interesting um i i i as a kid

527
00:19:09,029 --> 00:19:07,760
um i just had always had that feeling

528
00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:09,039
that i i could

529
00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:10,960
manifest anything and i think perhaps

530
00:19:15,669 --> 00:19:12,559
that's a um

531
00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:15,679
a fairly common uh experience

532
00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:18,960
for children until we get out into the

533
00:19:22,230 --> 00:19:20,640
world and get beaten up a bit

534
00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:22,240
by it you know i think we all feel

535
00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:24,880
pretty invincible maybe i know

536
00:19:29,510 --> 00:19:27,840
i don't know that there's been a true

537
00:19:31,029 --> 00:19:29,520
amount of research done on that but i

538
00:19:32,870 --> 00:19:31,039
i know many people who felt that when

539
00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:32,880
they were kids like ah i can do anything

540
00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:35,760
i certainly felt it oh yeah because i

541
00:19:37,990 --> 00:19:37,520
don't know you're fresh from the astral

542
00:19:40,030 --> 00:19:38,000
you're fresh

543
00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:40,040
from the um

544
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[Music]

545
00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:44,320
wherever we were before and where we'll

546
00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:44,640
go

547
00:19:48,710 --> 00:19:47,200
after and even if you don't believe that

548
00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:48,720
that's that's okay too

549
00:19:53,270 --> 00:19:51,760
but nevertheless there's something about

550
00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:53,280
consciousness in us

551
00:19:58,710 --> 00:19:56,640
that says i am special after all i

552
00:20:00,710 --> 00:19:58,720
i am the center of my universe right i'm

553
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:00,720
the only person that i can say i

554
00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:04,480
i you need no one else has that

555
00:20:08,390 --> 00:20:07,520
experience apparently and yet yeah we

556
00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:08,400
all do

557
00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:11,440
i remember asking my dad a very very

558
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deep question

559
00:20:17,830 --> 00:20:16,000
when i was i don't know i seem to

560
00:20:19,029 --> 00:20:17,840
remember i was maybe about eight or nine

561
00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:19,039
and i asked him this deep

562
00:20:26,149 --> 00:20:22,320
zen question i said dad why am

563
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i me and not somebody

564
00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:29,200
else and

565
00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:31,679
i remember exactly word for word what he

566
00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:32,720
said

567
00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:41,990
doris i don't know where he got that

568
00:20:45,190 --> 00:20:43,360
from he used to call

569
00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:45,200
he used to call me all kinds of names

570
00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:46,640
don't be silly doris you are somebody

571
00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:47,120
else

572
00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:50,320
which if you know that's a sort of a zen

573
00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:52,400
master answer you know like hit you over

574
00:20:55,909 --> 00:20:53,840
the head

575
00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:55,919
yeah it was just you know uh you are

576
00:21:00,390 --> 00:20:57,440
somebody else of course because to him

577
00:21:01,590 --> 00:21:00,400
i was somebody else oh that's

578
00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:01,600
interesting

579
00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:04,640
this sense of eye-ness is uh

580
00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:06,960
is universal and yet we every single one

581
00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:08,320
of us thinks we are

582
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:11,440
the i and nobody else is

583
00:21:15,029 --> 00:21:13,840
no it's very bizarre you try to wrap

584
00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:15,039
your head around it

585
00:21:17,830 --> 00:21:16,880
anyway we'll get to that later because

586
00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:17,840
that's one of the key things that

587
00:21:21,830 --> 00:21:18,880
shakespeare says i

588
00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:21,840
am that i am it's the name of god you

589
00:21:25,510 --> 00:21:22,400
know when

590
00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:25,520
in in the bible in exodus

591
00:21:31,430 --> 00:21:28,720
chapter 3 verse 14 and wrap your head

592
00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:31,440
around that because that's 3.14 that's

593
00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:32,159
pi

594
00:21:39,909 --> 00:21:36,640
in chapter 3 14

595
00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:39,919
uh moses is on mount sinai and he asks

596
00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:42,000
god he says who shall i say sent me you

597
00:21:44,310 --> 00:21:43,120
know they're going to think i'm nuts

598
00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:44,320
coming down the hill with these ten

599
00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:45,440
commandments you know

600
00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:49,520
tell me your name and god says

601
00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:53,039
here hebrew for i am that i

602
00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:56,960
am tells him the name of god i am

603
00:22:01,830 --> 00:21:58,480
well it turns out that shakespeare uses

604
00:22:03,270 --> 00:22:01,840
that very very very phrase in sonic 121

605
00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:03,280
i am that i am

606
00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:06,080
anyway we'll get to that so i'm a kid

607
00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:08,240
i'm coming home from school

608
00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:11,760
in my uh early teens and there's a new

609
00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:12,960
tv show on

610
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:16,320
and it's called the monkeys and my dad

611
00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:18,080
funnily enough is watching it he kind of

612
00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:18,720
likes it

613
00:22:22,149 --> 00:22:20,240
i didn't like it because i was into the

614
00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:22,159
beatles and i thought this was

615
00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:25,280
comparatively i just it didn't resonate

616
00:22:27,669 --> 00:22:26,240
for me

617
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:27,679
but there was there was more going on

618
00:22:31,270 --> 00:22:29,760
than that because i actually had a

619
00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:31,280
visceral reaction

620
00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:34,640
to seeing this little bastard davey

621
00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:39,669
from around the corner from where i live

622
00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:41,360
he's from manchester

623
00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:43,280
and i'm living in manchester and i'm

624
00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:45,520
thinking why has he got this

625
00:22:49,430 --> 00:22:48,159
job he's he's the next beatles right i

626
00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:49,440
mean it's the next beatles it was

627
00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:51,520
intended to be the next beatles

628
00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:53,679
it was a it was a you know they called

629
00:22:56,549 --> 00:22:55,280
the beatles the fab four and they called

630
00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:56,559
the monkeys the prefab

631
00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:00,320
four and it was very strange to me that

632
00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:02,320
i had this absolute gut reaction

633
00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:05,039
i actually hated him in my gut my

634
00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:06,480
stomach was churning

635
00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:08,320
now where does that come from i mean i

636
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:10,480
had no reason no rational reason i

637
00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:11,280
didn't know him

638
00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:13,200
he'd never done anything to me but i

639
00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:14,559
actually hated him

640
00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:16,320
and i wouldn't watch the show i didn't

641
00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:18,159
like it and

642
00:23:22,149 --> 00:23:19,919
years and years and years and years

643
00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:22,159
later that comes back

644
00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:25,360
to be very meaningful to me

645
00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:28,159
because um i meet him and end up working

646
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:30,080
with him as his musical director for 12

647
00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:31,039
years

648
00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:34,320
so anyway that sort of background

649
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:36,240
that happened what was that about

650
00:23:40,149 --> 00:23:37,760
believe that for a moment

651
00:23:41,669 --> 00:23:40,159
i go out into the world as a musician

652
00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:41,679
thinking well i want to be that

653
00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:44,400
successful i want to be doing stuff like

654
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:48,320
like he's doing and all i knew was i

655
00:23:52,950 --> 00:23:51,039
that i had read maybe one book and i

656
00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:52,960
can't remember what it would have been

657
00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:53,440
maybe

658
00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:56,159
how to win friends and influence people

659
00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:57,120
dale carnegie

660
00:24:00,870 --> 00:23:59,279
i can't remember but i got this sense

661
00:24:04,149 --> 00:24:00,880
from somewhere that

662
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:04,159
to manifest your goals you must believe

663
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:06,400
they already exist and you must picture

664
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:06,960
them and

665
00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:10,320
imagine it not just thinking i want

666
00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:12,000
this to come into being but actually

667
00:24:17,669 --> 00:24:14,240
believe it already is

668
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:17,679
and and so i set off to do that and the

669
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:18,000
first

670
00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:20,640
time i actually did it i i had done a

671
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:21,600
bit of traveling

672
00:24:26,470 --> 00:24:24,640
i'd gone to africa with a jazz band

673
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:26,480
i come back i think oh this is cool i

674
00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:28,000
really like the traveling thing

675
00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:30,400
maybe i'd like to work on a cruise ship

676
00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:32,240
i don't know where that idea came from

677
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:33,679
but i bought a picture of a cruise ship

678
00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:35,760
slapped it up on my wall

679
00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:37,840
and sat in front of it every night

680
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:39,840
imagining that i was there i could see

681
00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:41,440
myself on the cruise ship i could

682
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:43,360
picture the palm trees and the blue

683
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:44,080
ocean

684
00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:48,080
and me singing at the grand piano on a

685
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:49,039
cruise ship and

686
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:50,960
seeing all these wonderful places in the

687
00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:53,919
bahamas that i'd never been to you know

688
00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:57,120
and i actually just got into

689
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:59,440
oh it's real it's real it's really it's

690
00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:00,960
real and thinking that

691
00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:04,320
i am there and within about three months

692
00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:05,919
i got a call out of the blue from

693
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:08,000
someone did not know this person

694
00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:10,080
he said i got your number from so and so

695
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:11,120
i hear you're a

696
00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:13,200
pretty good pianist uh would you be

697
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:14,320
interested in uh

698
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:17,360
joining my band on a cruise ship and i

699
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:17,840
said

700
00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:21,440
ah that's how it happens that's how it

701
00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:22,720
works

702
00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:26,320
so i'll go on a cruise ship and

703
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:28,080
gradually i just did more and more of

704
00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:29,760
this i thought oh that's interesting i

705
00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:31,200
want a record deal

706
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:32,799
and i would sit at home after i did my

707
00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:34,480
cruise ships then i'm

708
00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:37,679
picturing myself signing a record deal

709
00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:38,000
in

710
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:40,480
london and that's gonna happen i can

711
00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:41,120
feel it

712
00:25:45,909 --> 00:25:44,080
not gonna happen it's happened and and

713
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:45,919
lo and behold through contacts

714
00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:48,240
i mean of course i had to do the pushing

715
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:50,400
and shoving and writing songs etc but

716
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:51,200
nevertheless

717
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:53,520
that's what i wanted and that's what was

718
00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:54,480
manifesting

719
00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:56,400
got a record field but it was a very

720
00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:58,400
small label and it wasn't the sort of

721
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:01,440
uh thing that i envisioned i want to be

722
00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:04,960
yeah i want to be signed by oh by davis

723
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:08,720
arista and my first record heel fell

724
00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:09,360
apart

725
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:12,880
for various reasons i then i went

726
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:15,120
oh okay let's do that and i pictured

727
00:26:19,830 --> 00:26:17,760
where clive davis's office was in new

728
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:19,840
york and i'm sitting in my apartment now

729
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:20,799
in london

730
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:23,200
and that and facing new york i'm

731
00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:24,960
thinking it's over there

732
00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:27,440
i can picture his office and i just

733
00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:29,279
pictured myself signing a record deal

734
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:31,120
with clive davis and

735
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:33,039
and honestly within a few months the

736
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:34,720
person who was taking care of my

737
00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:37,840
uh business then my manager uh makes the

738
00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:39,520
acquaintance of clive davis invites him

739
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:40,799
to come and see my show

740
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:42,480
clive davis comes to see my show in

741
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:44,880
london besides me on the spot

742
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:48,000
so i i'm thinking wow this is

743
00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:49,919
this is amazing this is how you do it

744
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:52,720
you know if you can believe

745
00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:55,919
it is so that was what

746
00:27:02,310 --> 00:26:59,279
started and so to get me

747
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:02,320
through to the connection to davey

748
00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:03,679
i'm just going to rush through a bunch

749
00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:06,320
of things that deal fell through because

750
00:27:09,909 --> 00:27:06,960
i was

751
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:09,919
a pain in the ass to work with and i

752
00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:10,880
literally

753
00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:13,919
wouldn't let anybody do their job and

754
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:15,679
try david said to me since i've signed

755
00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:17,520
you but uh but you haven't written any

756
00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:18,240
hits yet

757
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:20,720
um beca and i and i got sort of you know

758
00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:22,080
i've set over there but what

759
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:23,120
happened in the house i mean you haven't

760
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:24,320
put anything out obviously it's not a

761
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,710
but he's saying he's doing his deal he's

762
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:30,480
doing his clive davis thing you know i

763
00:27:33,269 --> 00:27:31,840
know i hit when i hear it and i've heard

764
00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:33,279
your demos and you don't have any

765
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:36,799
i went home wrote three songs in a huff

766
00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:39,919
you know i'll show you about a hit and i

767
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:41,440
wrote three songs and one of them

768
00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:44,320
was a joke an absolute joke song and it

769
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:45,279
was called

770
00:27:49,110 --> 00:27:48,480
15 and it was intended for a teeny bop

771
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,120
band

772
00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:51,360
and it was a it was it was very catchy

773
00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:52,640
and it was obviously a hit

774
00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:55,840
i mean to me it was and it went

775
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:00,399
baby you'll soon be 15

776
00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:04,559
and you know what i mean when i say

777
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:08,559
i love you all right that sounds like a

778
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:10,559
hit and i play it for clive and clive

779
00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:12,080
says yep that's a hit

780
00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:13,520
you're gonna record it and i said no no

781
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:16,480
no no i can't record it i'm 25 years old

782
00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:19,039
don't you get it it's a joke 15 is not

783
00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:25,110
i can't be singing to teenagers

784
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:27,039
and he absolutely insisted says no you

785
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:29,120
got to record it i said oh come on

786
00:28:32,549 --> 00:28:31,360
give it to the basically rollers up or

787
00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:32,559
some you know i mean

788
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:34,399
i just did that to prove to you i can

789
00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:35,679
write a hit

790
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:37,840
no you're going to record it i record it

791
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:39,360
under duress

792
00:28:42,549 --> 00:28:41,279
really really upset over the fact i'm

793
00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:42,559
thinking well i'm going to record a ton

794
00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:43,919
of other stuff he's going to hear the

795
00:28:45,909 --> 00:28:45,279
other stuff and he'll release that he

796
00:28:48,389 --> 00:28:45,919
won't ever

797
00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:48,399
release this one this is just a joke

798
00:28:51,269 --> 00:28:50,000
nope at the end of it he said yeah

799
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:51,279
that's fabulous you're going to record

800
00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:52,720
it you're going to release it

801
00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:54,399
it's going to be your hit record well if

802
00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:56,559
i do that i'm going to end up being

803
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:58,799
a teeny box singer for the rest of my

804
00:29:02,230 --> 00:28:59,840
life and it actually

805
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:02,240
is very uncomfortable because as i say i

806
00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:04,000
was already 25 i wasn't a

807
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:06,880
teen so it just didn't work and i said

808
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:08,000
no i'm not going to and

809
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:11,200
i said okay fine goodbye so i got

810
00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:12,880
dropped from that label

811
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:14,799
so i've now been on two labels but i

812
00:29:18,149 --> 00:29:16,880
don't care because i know i can manifest

813
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:18,159
a label right

814
00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:21,120
i can just manifest the next one and i

815
00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:22,240
come to america

816
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:25,760
and i i start trying to manifest and

817
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:27,039
it's not working and i i

818
00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:30,000
by this point i've done i've been to see

819
00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:31,919
about 20 labels in l.a and they're all

820
00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:34,000
very excited i've given them my arista

821
00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:35,039
album that was never

822
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:36,960
released saying here here look listen to

823
00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:38,240
these tapes aren't they great

824
00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:39,840
oh yeah we love them but then nobody

825
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:41,840
followed through so i got very very very

826
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:42,799
desperate at

827
00:29:45,990 --> 00:29:44,880
this time because it suddenly seemed to

828
00:29:48,149 --> 00:29:46,000
be not working

829
00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:48,159
the point i'm getting to is and i want

830
00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:49,520
to i want to just stress

831
00:29:53,669 --> 00:29:52,240
this because for for for listeners i

832
00:29:55,990 --> 00:29:53,679
just want you to

833
00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:56,000
understand where i'm coming from on this

834
00:30:01,590 --> 00:29:58,880
the idea of manifesting

835
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:01,600
is certainly it's got to be real i had

836
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:03,919
proven it to myself that by

837
00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:07,120
focusing one's belief one can

838
00:30:12,789 --> 00:30:10,720
apparently affect what is coming

839
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:12,799
towards you and i could feel it very

840
00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:13,760
viscerally

841
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:17,039
at the same time though i was not

842
00:30:22,389 --> 00:30:18,640
in a good space as far as being a

843
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:22,399
catholic being somebody that was

844
00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:24,080
cognizant of other people's feelings i

845
00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:26,159
i'm not proud of the way i was behaving

846
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:27,760
at the time and i could see that that

847
00:30:30,389 --> 00:30:28,480
was

848
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:30,399
uh not working well because i got

849
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:33,279
dropped by two labels

850
00:30:37,110 --> 00:30:35,679
so anyway now i've got i'm desperate

851
00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:37,120
because i'm really at my

852
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:38,720
which end i borrowed a lot of money to

853
00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:40,720
come to america and i'm

854
00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:43,760
is seemingly not working anymore

855
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:45,919
and i'm in the middle of driving back

856
00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:47,279
towards la

857
00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:50,240
after taking a brief hiatus and saying

858
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:52,720
oh god what am i going to do i i i'm in

859
00:30:59,110 --> 00:30:53,679
desperate

860
00:31:02,149 --> 00:30:59,120
story short i'm not going to go

861
00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:02,159
deeply into the details but honestly i

862
00:31:08,470 --> 00:31:04,480
had what i know was a spiritual

863
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:08,480
experience of talking with

864
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:10,480
the whatever you want to call and what

865
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:12,480
everyone is comfortable with god

866
00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:15,760
the divine energy whatever but i could

867
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:17,760
feel it and it was a life-changing

868
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:20,880
experience it wasn't imagination

869
00:31:23,909 --> 00:31:23,679
it was absolutely the most real thing i

870
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:23,919
had

871
00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:26,080
ever felt or experienced in my life and

872
00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:28,000
it went roughly like this

873
00:31:31,830 --> 00:31:30,399
i'm when i say i hear a voice it's not

874
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:31,840
that you hear a voice it's just an

875
00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:32,880
intuitive

876
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:36,000
inside i i have this sense of

877
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:39,120
yes i am being communicated with

878
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:41,360
and the and the voice for want of a

879
00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:42,240
better term

880
00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:45,440
was saying alan when you're

881
00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:49,200
in a room playing your new songs for a

882
00:31:53,269 --> 00:31:51,200
group of people

883
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:53,279
and there's even one person not paying

884
00:31:57,669 --> 00:31:54,320
attention

885
00:32:01,029 --> 00:31:57,679
you get really upset don't you

886
00:32:01,350 --> 00:32:01,039
well that nailed that was me yeah nailed

887
00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:01,360
me

888
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:02,880
i wanted everybody to be paying

889
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:04,130
attention to me

890
00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:06,000
[Music]

891
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:08,320
wow if nine people out of ten were

892
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:09,760
wrapped attention saying oh this is

893
00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:11,440
fabulous alan

894
00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:14,159
and one person is not paying attention

895
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:16,159
i'm focusing on that one person

896
00:32:19,269 --> 00:32:18,320
and this i'm getting this realization

897
00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:19,279
yeah yeah

898
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:23,039
yeah and in an instant this

899
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:26,320
to me i just say divine said well i'm

900
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:28,320
doing all this

901
00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:31,760
constantly and it was as though a hand

902
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:34,080
was swept across the entire horizon as

903
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:35,279
i'm driving

904
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:38,880
and i saw and felt bliss

905
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:41,600
in everything everything and i had that

906
00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:42,080
experience

907
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:43,679
that people talk about about being one

908
00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:45,360
with everything

909
00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:48,799
i'm doing this i'm seeing stars

910
00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:51,120
in in in daylight you know and i'm

911
00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:52,640
seeing the sap in the trees and i'm

912
00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:53,600
seeing

913
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:55,360
i i don't know it's how it's impossible

914
00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:57,440
to describe but a supernatural

915
00:33:01,830 --> 00:32:59,840
experience of energy everywhere

916
00:33:03,029 --> 00:33:01,840
flowing beautiful deep and i was in

917
00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:03,039
bliss i was in

918
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:05,840
a kind of peace i had never ever ever

919
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:06,480
known

920
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:09,600
suddenly i'm doing this all the time and

921
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:10,000
hardly

922
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:13,360
anybody's paying attention but i don't

923
00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:15,200
get upset

924
00:33:24,310 --> 00:33:23,200
infinite patience i was really hit

925
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:24,320
between the eyes with

926
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:26,960
you know hey and essentially it was a

927
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:28,240
conversation that went up for a little

928
00:33:30,070 --> 00:33:28,799
while of

929
00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:30,080
you know you pick you're giving no

930
00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:31,600
attention to where this comes from you

931
00:33:34,789 --> 00:33:31,919
think

932
00:33:35,190 --> 00:33:34,799
i manifest this you you're doing it you

933
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:35,200
know

934
00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:37,760
you made a cruise ship you live data

935
00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:39,039
sign in

936
00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:42,799
no maybe but maybe it's a group effort

937
00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:44,480
maybe there's a team effort maybe i've

938
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:45,760
got something to do with it

939
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:49,120
the divine is saying

940
00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:51,760
maybe you should credit me i'd like some

941
00:33:54,149 --> 00:33:52,480
credit

942
00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:54,159
it wasn't being said that way but that

943
00:33:59,190 --> 00:33:56,799
was it was referencing it back to my own

944
00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:59,200
need for personal attention you know

945
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:01,360
you need attention right what about me

946
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:02,880
i'm doing all this i'm doing a freaking

947
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:03,679
universe man

948
00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:06,960
i'm not just a song wow

949
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:10,159
and because i had hit rock bottom and i

950
00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:12,480
had no more avenues to go to i was

951
00:34:15,829 --> 00:34:14,800
ripe you know it was just yeah i can't

952
00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:15,839
manifest anymore

953
00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:17,359
and all these labels that i thought i

954
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:19,200
could just turn on nobody's interested

955
00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:21,200
nobody's saying a word

956
00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:23,040
so at that in that moment because i'm

957
00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:24,399
full of utter

958
00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:26,879
something i had never experienced uh

959
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:28,320
it's not just happiness and it's not

960
00:34:30,629 --> 00:34:28,720
just

961
00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:30,639
even joy it's bliss it's a work there's

962
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:32,399
a there's a word for it and it's just

963
00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:35,440
the most astounding feeling

964
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:38,879
that i had ever had at that time

965
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:42,720
a sureness that i am loved completely

966
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:46,639
and i am a part of it all in fact really

967
00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:48,639
saying it without that connotation of

968
00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:50,399
ego i am it all

969
00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:53,679
you know the i am wow

970
00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:57,839
so at that moment i accepted that that

971
00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:01,200
was the reality and i knew very well in

972
00:35:06,069 --> 00:35:03,760
that in that moment i was being told

973
00:35:07,270 --> 00:35:06,079
now what do you what do you want what do

974
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:07,280
you need and i'm saying

975
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:10,560
i'm saying to whatever this is you know

976
00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:12,720
what i want yeah i need a record deal

977
00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:16,640
i'm massively in debt i have my friend's

978
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:17,200
money

979
00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:20,240
i'm i'm i'm i've maxed out my american

980
00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:22,160
express credit card i have no cash in my

981
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:24,400
pocket i'm going home in a rental car

982
00:35:27,349 --> 00:35:25,760
but it's going to be taken off me i

983
00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:27,359
think i'm going to dentist prison i

984
00:35:29,589 --> 00:35:28,000
don't know i

985
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:29,599
don't have debtors prison in america but

986
00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:31,920
i thought for my english upbringing

987
00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:34,960
that's where i was going i need

988
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:38,079
i need a deal i need a record deal of

989
00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:40,400
course you do

990
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:42,960
are you telling me that the creator of

991
00:35:46,069 --> 00:35:44,160
all this

992
00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:46,079
and i'm feeling it i'm seeing it you

993
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:47,599
know the creator of

994
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:50,720
all this can't

995
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:54,560
get you a record deal ask me

996
00:36:02,390 --> 00:35:58,320
ask me don't just say

997
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:02,400
you can do it wow and at that moment i

998
00:36:05,589 --> 00:36:05,200
knew internally that i could actually

999
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:05,599
ask

1000
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:09,119
and it was a truth uh it's in the bible

1001
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:11,040
it's in all that it's in all great

1002
00:36:14,310 --> 00:36:13,920
scriptures about if you can believe you

1003
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:14,320
know

1004
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:16,720
and it's possible but you must but

1005
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:18,000
believe believe

1006
00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:20,800
a total belief without any doubt without

1007
00:36:23,829 --> 00:36:21,680
any flaws and that

1008
00:36:25,829 --> 00:36:23,839
in my experience of manifesting it had

1009
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:25,839
always been i have to churn the ether

1010
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:27,760
with my thoughts my positive thoughts

1011
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:30,320
to say i am being signed by clyde davis

1012
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:32,480
i am i am i am i get it i get it i feel

1013
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:33,520
it and then when you come out of that

1014
00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:34,880
meditation

1015
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:36,320
there's always the little voices in your

1016
00:36:40,069 --> 00:36:38,240
head saying yeah but

1017
00:36:42,069 --> 00:36:40,079
maybe not you know who do you think you

1018
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:42,079
are right we all have negative voices

1019
00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:43,440
and we have this idea that we're going

1020
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:46,320
to power through with positive voices

1021
00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:48,160
and it's obvious it was obvious to me

1022
00:36:51,349 --> 00:36:49,839
that one had one had to outweigh the

1023
00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:51,359
other you had to be

1024
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:53,680
really manifesting up in the idea of i'm

1025
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:56,240
90 positive and only i'm only 10

1026
00:37:00,150 --> 00:36:58,079
negative throughout the rest of the day

1027
00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:00,160
and i can squash those thoughts

1028
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:02,880
as well with more definite positive

1029
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:04,160
force you've got to do that

1030
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:06,160
be positive all the time to attract what

1031
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:08,320
you want that is positive and that's

1032
00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:10,000
what i had been doing but i found it

1033
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:11,760
easy to do that

1034
00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:14,079
well now i didn't have i couldn't even

1035
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:15,280
find a negative thought

1036
00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:17,440
it was a ludicrous thought to me to even

1037
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:19,920
think what if this doesn't happen

1038
00:37:25,990 --> 00:37:24,160
because this divine being was saying

1039
00:37:27,270 --> 00:37:26,000
you have a record deal now if you could

1040
00:37:30,310 --> 00:37:27,280
believe it right

1041
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:30,320
i mean why can't now of course of course

1042
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:31,839
how can it be possible that

1043
00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:33,680
the creator of these galaxies that i'm

1044
00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:35,359
seeing in my head are not

1045
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:37,520
you cannot give me a record deal so i

1046
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:39,200
just said okay yeah

1047
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:41,920
wow wow and i knew at that moment i had

1048
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:42,640
a record

1049
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:44,560
at that moment and i knew that i could

1050
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:47,040
also ask for whatever i wanted

1051
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:49,359
but the definite thought came well gee i

1052
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:50,560
could ask for a million dollars it's

1053
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:51,280
only a number

1054
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:53,839
it's only zeros but do i need a million

1055
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:54,480
dollars

1056
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:56,160
and actually i understood that i didn't

1057
00:37:59,109 --> 00:37:57,839
need a million dollars what i needed was

1058
00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:59,119
sixty thousand dollars

1059
00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:00,720
because i was about twenty five thousand

1060
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:02,400
dollars in debt this is forty years ago

1061
00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:03,520
we're talking about so there's a lot

1062
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:05,119
more money than it sounds right now

1063
00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:06,640
sixty thousand dollars would take care

1064
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:08,800
of me that's what i needed

1065
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:11,760
that's what i asked for i said well i

1066
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:13,200
need a record deal

1067
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:16,320
yeah done check how much do you need uh

1068
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:18,480
sixty thousand dollars to pay off my

1069
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:19,520
debt and

1070
00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:21,040
give me enough money to write about this

1071
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:22,880
experience right okay

1072
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:26,240
done next and i'm driving back and this

1073
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:27,599
this blissful state

1074
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,599
did not leave and i got back to los

1075
00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:31,440
angeles to the couch

1076
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:34,560
of a friend that i was sleeping in his

1077
00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:35,440
apartment on

1078
00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:37,680
you know and the next day phone rings

1079
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:39,440
and it's richard perry from planet

1080
00:38:43,990 --> 00:38:40,400
records

1081
00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:44,000
who produced harry nielsen and oh god

1082
00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:46,160
streisand and pointer sisters and you

1083
00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:48,240
know many many many many big names

1084
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:50,560
he says you gave me a tape a couple of

1085
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,240
months ago that i never listened to he

1086
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:54,240
says but just yesterday i listened to it

1087
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:55,599
and it's the best thing i've ever heard

1088
00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:58,160
in a long long time come to my home

1089
00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:01,280
uh i want to give you a record here well

1090
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:02,560
it didn't work out that it ended up

1091
00:39:06,069 --> 00:39:02,880
being

1092
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:06,079
richard perry but i got turned on to

1093
00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:07,920
another label and blah blah blah but the

1094
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:09,520
point is i signed a record field and i

1095
00:39:12,550 --> 00:39:10,560
had a record view

1096
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:12,560
and it was it was at that moment that i

1097
00:39:15,510 --> 00:39:13,680
experienced was happening

1098
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:15,520
that he listened to that tape and of

1099
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:17,520
course i then ended up signing her a

1100
00:39:21,349 --> 00:39:18,320
record deal with

1101
00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:21,359
abc and they gave me uh an advance can

1102
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:23,520
you guess how much that advance was

1103
00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:26,640
it can only be 60k that's exactly what

1104
00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:28,240
it was

1105
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:31,119
and so on at that moment and i was i

1106
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:33,040
honestly was in the state of heightened

1107
00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:34,079
state so

1108
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:36,160
that bliss lasted for about three months

1109
00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:37,680
i could not uh

1110
00:39:40,390 --> 00:39:39,040
get i couldn't get rid of it wouldn't

1111
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:40,400
want to get rid of it but i mean it just

1112
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:40,880
wouldn't

1113
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:43,680
it was there all the time utter bliss

1114
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:44,640
and then it faded

1115
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:46,160
and after three months it started to

1116
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:48,000
fade away and i knew

1117
00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:50,560
that oh okay that's real i can

1118
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:51,680
experience that

1119
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:53,920
but now i probably didn't deserve that

1120
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:55,119
that was grace

1121
00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:57,280
i've got to go find it myself i i just

1122
00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:59,040
knew all that intuitively and i went

1123
00:40:02,870 --> 00:39:59,599
looking

1124
00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:02,880
for my own spiritual path and i i found

1125
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:05,359
it and i'm not going to name it because

1126
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:08,000
you know i'm not going to be at all

1127
00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:10,000
saying oh one should do this i mean i

1128
00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:12,640
i just say you know what go looking if

1129
00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:13,760
you're looking for

1130
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:16,079
something for yourself go looking for

1131
00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:16,960
what resonates

1132
00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:19,520
it will it will speak to you and i found

1133
00:40:22,309 --> 00:40:21,440
what it was i found a certain meditation

1134
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:22,319
technique

1135
00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:27,359
then regain that blissful experience

1136
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:30,319
that i thought had gone and from that i

1137
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:31,200
got

1138
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:34,480
actually a sequence of other one record

1139
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:36,480
deal led to another led to another

1140
00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:39,280
finally my fifth record deal i get the

1141
00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:41,119
hit record that i wanted i surrendered

1142
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:42,400
it's called i surrender and it was about

1143
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:44,560
that experience i surrendered

1144
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:48,000
so now we get to uh basically

1145
00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:51,280
i would say oh god gave me the

1146
00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:53,839
regular deal i wanted yeah i knew that i

1147
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:55,599
mean that's what i wanted that's below i

1148
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:56,960
wanted but when i was a kid

1149
00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:59,119
i want i want a hit record like that

1150
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:01,440
bloody bastard david jones

1151
00:41:08,309 --> 00:41:06,790
and so i finally had my head it was a

1152
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:08,319
small hit it was number one in a couple

1153
00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:10,880
of areas up in seattle and atlanta but

1154
00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:13,760
over all in the states it was uh number

1155
00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:14,480
27

1156
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:17,200
and and and i'd had it that was it it

1157
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:17,920
was a small

1158
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:19,680
tiny little hit got a little bit of

1159
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:21,280
satisfaction and then

1160
00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:24,800
bam it was taken from me the record deal

1161
00:41:28,950 --> 00:41:26,880
ended and i was thrown out and i know it

1162
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:28,960
was for a purpose because i would have

1163
00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:31,520
i i would probably not be alive today if

1164
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:33,440
i'd have had fame and fortune i

1165
00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:35,440
do you know it wouldn't have been good

1166
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:36,480
for me but i

1167
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:40,400
did get the little bit i wanted and then

1168
00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:44,800
bam i get a call out of the blue

1169
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:46,560
i'm not manifesting anything anymore by

1170
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:47,760
the way you know i'm not saying i want

1171
00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:49,839
this i want this i was just content i

1172
00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:51,920
know i can get what i need when it when

1173
00:41:56,069 --> 00:41:53,599
i need it i don't need to

1174
00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:56,079
do this massive manifesting spree it's

1175
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:57,040
going to come

1176
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:59,040
because i'm looked after i'm cared for i

1177
00:42:02,870 --> 00:42:00,960
am loved by something

1178
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:02,880
i believe it's the divine but you know

1179
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:04,319
whatever it's it's

1180
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:07,359
for all those listening there's a love

1181
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:08,400
there's something

1182
00:42:12,550 --> 00:42:11,040
there is consciousness that tells you

1183
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:12,560
you are important

1184
00:42:19,430 --> 00:42:16,240
you are so important you are the i this

1185
00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:19,440
i am that knows itself and so that's the

1186
00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:20,319
state i was in

1187
00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:21,839
and so i didn't need to be manifesting

1188
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:23,920
and yet things started manifesting

1189
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:24,720
enough

1190
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:26,880
on their own or through divine

1191
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:28,800
intervention i get a phone call

1192
00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:30,720
got a gig for you i can't tell you what

1193
00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:32,000
it is it's kind of hush hush

1194
00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:34,160
you've got to go to this uh theater and

1195
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:35,680
rehearse a band they can't read their

1196
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:36,960
charts they're not very good at reading

1197
00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:38,880
music they need to be whipped into shape

1198
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:39,200
and

1199
00:42:42,630 --> 00:42:41,359
uh it's just a one day thing just teach

1200
00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:42,640
them the charts

1201
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:45,440
and we'll pay you blah blah blah okay

1202
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:47,440
and i show up and i'm there and i'm

1203
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:49,520
running the band through their charts

1204
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:50,560
and

1205
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:52,079
one number two number three number

1206
00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:54,240
fourth number is a monkey's tune

1207
00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:55,760
and then five and six seven pounds and

1208
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:57,520
then the eighth number is a monkey's

1209
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:58,000
tune

1210
00:43:02,069 --> 00:43:00,000
and i'm going what is this nobody will

1211
00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:02,079
tell me and i'm i'm i'm getting them

1212
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:03,440
and they can play well they just can't

1213
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:05,200
read the charts so i'm sort of taking

1214
00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:06,400
them through it

1215
00:43:10,069 --> 00:43:08,480
and then out you know i'm on the

1216
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:10,079
proscenium arch of the stage with the

1217
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:10,560
band

1218
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:13,920
and down i don't know 200 yards away a

1219
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:15,440
door opens at the back

1220
00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:18,880
behind all these red plush velvet seats

1221
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:19,359
and in

1222
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:24,240
walks who got to be davey jones

1223
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:27,760
david jones and my stomach immediately

1224
00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:31,440
churned this is that bastard i don't

1225
00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:33,040
like

1226
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:35,520
and where's that come from never met him

1227
00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:36,319
i didn't know

1228
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:39,520
all of a sudden this is 20 years after

1229
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:43,040
about twenty after after the time of uh

1230
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:46,079
no it's not quite 15 years later after

1231
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:47,680
the time that i had hated him

1232
00:43:54,069 --> 00:43:50,960
as a school kid for no reason you know

1233
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:54,079
irrational hatred stomach journey

1234
00:44:05,030 --> 00:44:02,630
no this guy

1235
00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:05,040
and he walks up to me and he goes oh

1236
00:44:08,710 --> 00:44:05,760
cowboy

1237
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:08,720
i hear you from manchester oh great

1238
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:10,240
we're gonna have a fabulous time do you

1239
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:12,079
know that pub down road on

1240
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:14,240
wicker street and do you remember the

1241
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:16,160
inner charcoal story and

1242
00:44:23,109 --> 00:44:19,280
he starts in with the manchester humor

1243
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:23,119
and all my resistance went because he's

1244
00:44:29,829 --> 00:44:26,640
funny and he's really engaging

1245
00:44:31,589 --> 00:44:29,839
and he's just saying uh oh man

1246
00:44:33,190 --> 00:44:31,599
and we started with the manchester human

1247
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:33,200
now the band are all american and

1248
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:34,480
they're standing on stage

1249
00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:35,760
thinking what's going on here we don't

1250
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:37,119
understand what they're talking about

1251
00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:38,560
because it's very local

1252
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:40,880
humor and we're just killing each other

1253
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:42,880
and i'm making him laugh and he's making

1254
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:44,880
me laugh and within 10 minutes i realize

1255
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:46,000
i don't hate this guy

1256
00:44:52,470 --> 00:44:49,359
i love him we were it was

1257
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:52,480
instant oh man i love this guy

1258
00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:54,560
where where did that all come from well

1259
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:55,520
to me now i know

1260
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:58,319
it's it's it's all karma it was a it was

1261
00:45:03,270 --> 00:44:59,920
something in the past

1262
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:03,280
between us uh lifetimes ago who knows

1263
00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:05,440
but it was definitely there that was

1264
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:07,200
just

1265
00:45:11,349 --> 00:45:10,240
i don't want to see this guy again and

1266
00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:11,359
there he was

1267
00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:14,000
he was the funniest person i have ever

1268
00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:15,200
known he could make you

1269
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:17,359
hurt from laughing he could make you

1270
00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:19,200
roll on the ground

1271
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:21,839
saying please stop stop stop clutching

1272
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:23,280
my stomach going oh no

1273
00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:26,560
no he could play laughter like coltrane

1274
00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:27,280
played

1275
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:35,920
he was a master of making you laugh

1276
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:38,800
and he once he got you laughing he would

1277
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:40,079
probably probably

1278
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:42,720
never stop until you were begging

1279
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:44,319
begging for mercy stop because this is

1280
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:46,000
hurting too much stuff and stuff is

1281
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:46,800
lovely

1282
00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:48,400
and i'm rolling on the floor laughing

1283
00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:50,240
but i could make him laugh too and he

1284
00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:51,359
liked that

1285
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:54,000
and we were just knocking each other out

1286
00:45:56,550 --> 00:45:55,040
within 10 minutes

1287
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:56,560
and he says so you're coming on road

1288
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:58,079
with us on yeah it'd be great i said i

1289
00:46:00,150 --> 00:45:59,280
can't stand these yanks i don't

1290
00:46:01,829 --> 00:46:00,160
understand them if

1291
00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:01,839
you and me together on the road with

1292
00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:03,680
manchester boys it'll be fabulous come

1293
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:05,359
on

1294
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,160
and i just found myself saying yeah okay

1295
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:12,720
and two days later i'm on the road with

1296
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:13,359
him

1297
00:46:18,550 --> 00:46:15,599
as his musical director and i was with

1298
00:46:23,109 --> 00:46:21,829
how about that yes it's quite funny how

1299
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:23,119
it all comes around

1300
00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:27,200
a karma you know we had to work out

1301
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:30,240
some stuff from the past now

1302
00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:32,079
i won't go into the stuff because some

1303
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:33,599
of that's pretty ugly

1304
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:34,960
and we weren't always the best of

1305
00:46:41,109 --> 00:46:38,240
friends but at the same time

1306
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:41,119
i love him dearly and still do and you

1307
00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:42,240
know

1308
00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:45,680
he's he's past now and

1309
00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:48,880
he's he's in a fine place i know he is

1310
00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:52,079
and so it's all good it's all good we

1311
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:54,640
just had stuff to work out so there we

1312
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:56,240
are that takes us through all that and

1313
00:47:00,390 --> 00:46:57,839
now we can get onto shakespeare

1314
00:47:01,990 --> 00:47:00,400
yes so life is definitely weird

1315
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:02,000
sometimes and that is uh

1316
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:05,200
quite a full circle loop but yes to

1317
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:07,440
bring it back to the full story here

1318
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:09,280
you learn about this shakespeare

1319
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:11,520
authorship rabbit hole you go down it a

1320
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,480
little bit

1321
00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:14,640
and then how do we connect these two

1322
00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:16,000
parts working with

1323
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:18,720
davey jones of the monkeys and being

1324
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:20,319
fascinated by this shakespeare

1325
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:22,240
authorship mystery

1326
00:47:25,990 --> 00:47:24,800
well one of the connections is that what

1327
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:26,000
i had to learn

1328
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:29,280
was um to get rid of my

1329
00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:31,040
horrible attitude about working with

1330
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:33,599
people and and my own need for

1331
00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:37,040
attention whereas i got to experience

1332
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:38,960
i got to experience the kind of fame and

1333
00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:41,440
fortune that i thought i always wanted

1334
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:44,800
through david vicariously

1335
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:48,000
and i got to see how awful it was up

1336
00:47:52,230 --> 00:47:51,200
up close i mean living with him for 12

1337
00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:52,240
years and knowing

1338
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:55,119
that he knew he didn't know he could

1339
00:47:59,670 --> 00:47:55,680
trust

1340
00:48:01,829 --> 00:47:59,680
anybody as his real friend

1341
00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:01,839
he liked me because i was always

1342
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:03,920
truthful with him he would say

1343
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:06,480
uh you liked us right you liked the

1344
00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:08,079
monkeys when you were a kid i mean you

1345
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:09,680
saw me right you know how brilliant that

1346
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:11,040
was right

1347
00:48:20,069 --> 00:48:14,800
i would say um yeah

1348
00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:20,079
i liked mickey occasionally

1349
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:22,640
no you don't mean that oh yeah oh wasn't

1350
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:23,520
the music great

1351
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:25,359
well i don't know it wasn't the beatles

1352
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:26,960
was it

1353
00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:29,200
i mean i would just wind him up you know

1354
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:31,119
and and i did grow to like

1355
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:34,000
their music and later i was blocked from

1356
00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:35,119
liking it

1357
00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:38,319
because i didn't like him for

1358
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:40,960
unknown reasons but in other words it

1359
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:42,240
wouldn't have been good for me to have

1360
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:42,960
that fame

1361
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:46,000
uh he had it in spades obviously he was

1362
00:48:55,109 --> 00:48:46,480
the

1363
00:48:57,030 --> 00:48:55,119
beatles and elvis combined

1364
00:48:58,950 --> 00:48:57,040
and so we we go on this wild ride and

1365
00:49:00,230 --> 00:48:58,960
i'm i'm playing with him all over the

1366
00:49:03,270 --> 00:49:00,240
world and seeing

1367
00:49:04,710 --> 00:49:03,280
how it is how this fame is is just just

1368
00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:04,720
stuck to you like blue you can't go

1369
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:06,480
anywhere without being

1370
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:08,800
you know the the center of attention and

1371
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:10,720
and in some way in some respects that's

1372
00:49:13,109 --> 00:49:11,200
great

1373
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:13,119
you know the work in others it's not so

1374
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:15,280
great and it's hard

1375
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:17,280
and i got to experience it vicariously

1376
00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:18,400
and realize well

1377
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:21,119
i don't know i wouldn't like that so i

1378
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:22,400
got to experience it

1379
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:24,160
through that without having to go

1380
00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:26,000
through it myself

1381
00:49:30,790 --> 00:49:28,880
and have the discomfort of having no

1382
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:30,800
privacy ever

1383
00:49:34,790 --> 00:49:33,760
so one of the things now in in what i'm

1384
00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:34,800
doing now

1385
00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:38,559
in promoting the wonderful person who

1386
00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:40,960
is shakespeare whether it's the man from

1387
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:42,880
stratfor or somebody else

1388
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:45,920
whatever i i am

1389
00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:47,280
i have discovered things about

1390
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:48,640
shakespeare that i want to tell the

1391
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:50,240
world about

1392
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:53,040
and i'm promoting i'm promoting that

1393
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:54,079
person not me

1394
00:49:57,910 --> 00:49:56,720
i'm not promoting myself anymore and

1395
00:49:58,950 --> 00:49:57,920
that that was what was always

1396
00:50:01,109 --> 00:49:58,960
uncomfortable for me

1397
00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:01,119
the idea of push push push push

1398
00:50:03,430 --> 00:50:02,720
self-promote self-promote that was

1399
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:03,440
always

1400
00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:05,520
got me into trouble it made me not a

1401
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:06,880
nice person

1402
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:08,400
and then once i got through that and

1403
00:50:11,829 --> 00:50:10,079
found that i could have this bliss i

1404
00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:11,839
could have this peace i could have this

1405
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:12,480
love

1406
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:16,000
could just go and meditate and do this

1407
00:50:20,069 --> 00:50:16,880
technique that

1408
00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:20,079
i know and and find it again

1409
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:23,040
and so you don't need to be constantly

1410
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:24,240
self-promoting

1411
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:26,400
and so this this thing came into my lap

1412
00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:28,880
where wow it seems to be your job

1413
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:32,079
to uh to promote shakespeare

1414
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:34,160
who who this person really is and how

1415
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:36,079
fascinating this person is because he's

1416
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:39,200
way way way more fascinating than we

1417
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:42,720
think he is and so uh promoting

1418
00:50:47,349 --> 00:50:45,760
that is easy for me because i'm saying

1419
00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:47,359
i'm not saying look at me i'm saying

1420
00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:49,520
look at this look at this and i'm a good

1421
00:50:53,910 --> 00:50:50,960
promoter you know i know i've

1422
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:53,920
learned how to manifest and promote for

1423
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:54,400
boat

1424
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:56,480
but it's much more comfortable to me now

1425
00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:58,400
to be promoting someone else not my

1426
00:51:01,750 --> 00:51:01,440
own stuff you know so that's one benefit

1427
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:01,760
that

1428
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:05,280
comes from those two worlds

1429
00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:08,160
connecting but you just told me about

1430
00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:09,760
before we started about some connection

1431
00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:11,440
that i didn't know about about

1432
00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:12,960
somebody shakespeare on the

1433
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:15,119
first monkey show what was that

1434
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:18,880
uh you know it is a weird tangent but

1435
00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:20,559
we follow the work of a guy named chris

1436
00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:22,000
knowles pretty closely and he

1437
00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:24,000
follows a series of synchronicities that

1438
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:25,280
revolve around

1439
00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:27,280
the singer elizabeth fraser from the

1440
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:28,480
cocktoo twins

1441
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:30,800
and this song that was originally sang

1442
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:33,440
by tim buckley called song of the siren

1443
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:35,599
this song was first performed by tim

1444
00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:38,480
buckley on the very first episode of the

1445
00:51:42,790 --> 00:51:39,920
monkeys tv show

1446
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:42,800
but also liz frazier got her start in a

1447
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:43,760
group called this

1448
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:46,319
mortal coil which is strangely enough

1449
00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,240
taken from shakespeare's hamlet

1450
00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:50,640
and you just happen to be at the center

1451
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:52,000
of this i mean you worked with davey

1452
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:53,680
jones of the monkeys and

1453
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:55,520
you're very much involved in this big

1454
00:51:59,349 --> 00:51:56,960
shakespeare mystery and

1455
00:52:01,910 --> 00:51:59,359
i just think that is a crazy loop of

1456
00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:01,920
coincidences that i know this audience

1457
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:03,359
would enjoy and probably likes hearing

1458
00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:06,160
about and it's just a wild ride man i

1459
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:08,319
mean that's how life unfolds sometimes

1460
00:52:10,710 --> 00:52:08,720
but

1461
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:10,720
i didn't know that greg and i thank you

1462
00:52:13,990 --> 00:52:11,760
for telling me about

1463
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:14,000
it i will look into liz frazier i don't

1464
00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:14,880
know i just i

1465
00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:17,599
i've never i'd had somehow escaped me

1466
00:52:20,549 --> 00:52:18,800
and it's another new

1467
00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:20,559
little synchronicity you go ah another

1468
00:52:25,109 --> 00:52:22,319
one great cool

1469
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:25,119
indeed and then uh you know having davey

1470
00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:26,480
jones in your

1471
00:52:29,829 --> 00:52:28,400
back pocket or having this resource in

1472
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:29,839
your back pocket

1473
00:52:33,990 --> 00:52:32,240
that is just i think really fascinating

1474
00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:34,000
because when you came to a roadblock

1475
00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:34,640
which we should

1476
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:37,280
get up to it actually came in quite

1477
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:38,000
handy

1478
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:41,280
the roadblock of which one are you

1479
00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:43,599
referring to now

1480
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:46,160
well i'm referring to the church i'm

1481
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:47,760
referring to getting in good with the

1482
00:52:50,950 --> 00:52:49,520
people of the church but we haven't even

1483
00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:50,960
gotten there yet

1484
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:53,119
so to take it back to the shakespeare

1485
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:55,119
mystery and to bring it up to

1486
00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:56,960
this roadblock at the church that i'm

1487
00:53:02,069 --> 00:52:58,720
referring to talk to us about

1488
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:02,079
this breadcrumb trail of codes you found

1489
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:04,319
within things that are related to

1490
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:05,200
shakespeare

1491
00:53:11,510 --> 00:53:08,400
all right most of this work is

1492
00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:11,520
is very easy to understand when you see

1493
00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:14,559
it visually because it it

1494
00:53:21,910 --> 00:53:18,480
it is a very visual thing to look at

1495
00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:21,920
texts codes and see

1496
00:53:26,549 --> 00:53:24,559
how they inter relate so it's a little

1497
00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:26,559
hard to describe

1498
00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:28,880
i can do it for you but i just would

1499
00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:31,040
urge people if they want to know

1500
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:34,559
further to go to a youtube channel

1501
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:36,640
and and see a couple of videos i've got

1502
00:53:39,910 --> 00:53:38,160
a bunch of videos up

1503
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:39,920
on a youtube channel and we'll perhaps

1504
00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:41,280
plug that

1505
00:53:44,790 --> 00:53:43,920
precisely later on but in other words

1506
00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:44,800
you can see

1507
00:53:53,270 --> 00:53:51,280
which is always easier to comprehend

1508
00:53:55,270 --> 00:53:53,280
than just hearing a description but in a

1509
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:55,280
nutshell

1510
00:54:01,990 --> 00:53:58,720
i began to find in my research that

1511
00:54:05,109 --> 00:54:02,000
there was something curious

1512
00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:05,119
about the gravestone of shakespeare

1513
00:54:11,390 --> 00:54:08,800
the monument of shakespeare in

1514
00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:11,400
what's known as shakespeare's church in

1515
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:12,960
stratford-upon-avon where

1516
00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:16,559
the man from stratford is buried

1517
00:54:19,829 --> 00:54:17,920
the first thing that's curious is that

1518
00:54:23,349 --> 00:54:19,839
the gravestone that

1519
00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:23,359
is purported to be his gravestone

1520
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:26,000
doesn't have his name on it and it has a

1521
00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:28,160
very curious

1522
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:31,359
well it's in you described earlier uh as

1523
00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:34,880
for it it's for it's not it's called

1524
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:35,760
iambic

1525
00:54:39,030 --> 00:54:38,000
tetrameter and the one that everybody

1526
00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:39,040
knows is iambic

1527
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:42,160
pentameter the five but the gravestone

1528
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:44,240
is written in tetrameter

1529
00:54:49,430 --> 00:54:47,920
four and it says good friend for jesus

1530
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:49,440
sake for bear

1531
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:52,960
to dig the dust and clothes here bless

1532
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:55,920
the the man the spares the stones and

1533
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:56,400
cursed

1534
00:54:59,829 --> 00:54:59,280
be he that moves my bones it's a pretty

1535
00:55:02,069 --> 00:54:59,839
bad

1536
00:55:03,430 --> 00:55:02,079
poem and it certainly doesn't have

1537
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:03,440
shakespeare's name on it but

1538
00:55:06,710 --> 00:55:04,880
you know they come into the church and

1539
00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:06,720
they get pointed to there and pay two

1540
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:09,119
pounds to come into the chancel and see

1541
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:12,559
the grave of shakespeare

1542
00:55:19,589 --> 00:55:16,000
there are some anomalies

1543
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:19,599
to that that didn't quite make sense

1544
00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:23,520
to me i had been this i had been

1545
00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:26,079
researching how codes were made during

1546
00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:27,359
the renaissance

1547
00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:29,440
and they were very very very popular

1548
00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:31,280
because it was a very repressive

1549
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:34,480
regime at the time the elizabethan and

1550
00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:35,920
the jacobean regimes

1551
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:40,000
and uh even prior to that it was all you

1552
00:55:44,069 --> 00:55:41,200
know very very

1553
00:55:44,789 --> 00:55:44,079
repressive and so people did communicate

1554
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:44,799
through

1555
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:48,559
codes and anagrams were all very very

1556
00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:50,960
very popular pastime as a way of

1557
00:55:56,230 --> 00:55:54,240
uh getting certain truths that were

1558
00:55:57,910 --> 00:55:56,240
perhaps considered heretical by the

1559
00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:57,920
church at the time

1560
00:56:01,589 --> 00:55:59,920
so his monument as well above that

1561
00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:01,599
gravestone also

1562
00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:05,839
reads similarly very strange absolutely

1563
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:08,960
just weird syntax and then

1564
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:10,960
there's something in the summit's

1565
00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:12,240
dedication

1566
00:56:15,670 --> 00:56:14,480
that has been thought to be code for a

1567
00:56:17,270 --> 00:56:15,680
couple of hundred years people have

1568
00:56:17,589 --> 00:56:17,280
written loads and loads of books about

1569
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:17,599
it

1570
00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:23,599
dots between every word in the sonnet's

1571
00:56:30,309 --> 00:56:25,440
dedication

1572
00:56:34,630 --> 00:56:30,319
so all of these things i started to

1573
00:56:37,750 --> 00:56:34,640
twig were perhaps part of a code

1574
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:37,760
now to just speed it along

1575
00:56:43,349 --> 00:56:40,400
and get past the difficulty of it being

1576
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:43,359
easier to see i will just say

1577
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:47,280
that the one person in that time period

1578
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:50,640
who would be capable of

1579
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:54,079
creating a really extensive deep and

1580
00:56:59,109 --> 00:56:54,720
beautiful

1581
00:57:00,549 --> 00:56:59,119
elegant code if if such were the case

1582
00:57:03,910 --> 00:57:00,559
you know that springing from my

1583
00:57:06,950 --> 00:57:03,920
suspicion of why is there no paper trail

1584
00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:06,960
why is there absolutely no evidence why

1585
00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:07,599
is everything

1586
00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:11,520
disappeared if not to hide some story

1587
00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:13,599
and if you're hiding a story but you

1588
00:57:18,309 --> 00:57:15,200
want that story to come out

1589
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:18,319
there are probably codes there are

1590
00:57:21,829 --> 00:57:20,400
progress probably something telling you

1591
00:57:23,430 --> 00:57:21,839
what really happened

1592
00:57:25,030 --> 00:57:23,440
but you have to figure it out because

1593
00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:25,040
it's a puzzle

1594
00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:28,160
the one person capable of doing that

1595
00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:31,680
at the time would be john d he was the

1596
00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:32,880
queen's

1597
00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:35,440
personal astrologer he was the most

1598
00:57:39,430 --> 00:57:37,359
accomplished mathematician

1599
00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:39,440
and he was the most accomplished

1600
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:40,720
cryptographer

1601
00:57:48,230 --> 00:57:45,119
and he was also her spy in europe

1602
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:48,240
and he looked like dumbledore

1603
00:57:54,309 --> 00:57:51,280
or merlin he was known

1604
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:54,319
as a magician he's

1605
00:58:01,750 --> 00:57:57,520
a fabulous wonderful character dr john

1606
00:58:05,109 --> 00:58:01,760
d and his code number is double 07

1607
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:05,119
right right and essentially

1608
00:58:09,910 --> 00:58:07,680
that's where the whole james bond story

1609
00:58:13,829 --> 00:58:09,920
came from

1610
00:58:16,069 --> 00:58:13,839
and oh so yeah he is the queen he is on

1611
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:16,079
on her majesty's secret service he is a

1612
00:58:22,230 --> 00:58:19,440
spy his code number's double 07.

1613
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:22,240
he's in europe working for her but he's

1614
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:23,520
he's he's the guy

1615
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:25,760
if if there's anybody that could have

1616
00:58:29,829 --> 00:58:27,359
done this it would be him

1617
00:58:31,990 --> 00:58:29,839
possibly francis bacon as well because

1618
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:32,000
francis bacon was

1619
00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:36,400
very clever at coding but as

1620
00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:38,319
most people know there's a suspicion

1621
00:58:42,549 --> 00:58:40,400
that francis bacon might be

1622
00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:42,559
shakespeare but the writings of

1623
00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:44,079
shakespeare in the writings of

1624
00:58:47,990 --> 00:58:47,280
bacon are so dissimilar that that never

1625
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:48,000
quite made

1626
00:58:53,829 --> 00:58:51,760
sense to me i don't discount it entirely

1627
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:53,839
but he's part of it he i have

1628
00:58:57,510 --> 00:58:55,839
discovered he certainly is a major part

1629
00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:57,520
of it but i think he's a major part of

1630
00:59:01,829 --> 00:58:59,520
the encryption not of the writing

1631
00:59:04,150 --> 00:59:01,839
but john d was absolutely head and

1632
00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:04,160
shoulders the guy to do encryption so i

1633
00:59:08,710 --> 00:59:06,160
i had researched him and found out that

1634
00:59:11,430 --> 00:59:08,720
what he does is he uses dots

1635
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:11,440
as his way of shuffling letters around

1636
00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:12,319
in a text

1637
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:15,040
so that the letters can be moved to a

1638
00:59:20,470 --> 00:59:16,640
place where they

1639
00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:20,480
are correct in their position so that

1640
00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:21,920
say for instance you take that

1641
00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:23,920
gravestone in inscription

1642
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:26,640
and instead of reading it horizontally

1643
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:28,640
you put it into what's called a grid so

1644
00:59:31,990 --> 00:59:31,119
17 letters and then you wrap it around

1645
00:59:33,910 --> 00:59:32,000
and you put another line

1646
00:59:36,069 --> 00:59:33,920
under itself and another line under

1647
00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:36,079
yourself and another line under itself

1648
00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:40,160
you just wrap the text around and

1649
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:42,960
lo and behold a vertical message will

1650
00:59:46,549 --> 00:59:44,160
show up

1651
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:46,559
this is called a cardano grill and it

1652
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:47,920
was a very common way

1653
00:59:53,190 --> 00:59:51,119
of doing encodings in those days and so

1654
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:53,200
i had started to look at this and i

1655
00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:54,960
thought oh i found the cardinal grill

1656
00:59:58,150 --> 00:59:55,359
here

1657
00:59:59,190 --> 00:59:58,160
yeah i was also basing my work on two

1658
01:00:01,990 --> 00:59:59,200
other people who did

1659
01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:02,000
massive work in this area uh one named

1660
01:00:06,950 --> 01:00:03,760
john rollet and one named

1661
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:06,960
neuendorf so again i wasn't totally

1662
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:08,960
in the dark uh just trying this out

1663
01:00:12,549 --> 01:00:10,240
myself i had

1664
01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:12,559
seen some other work that seemed to be

1665
01:00:17,109 --> 01:00:14,480
promising by these two people

1666
01:00:17,910 --> 01:00:17,119
and then i continued it on and took it

1667
01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:17,920
way way

1668
01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:20,640
way further as we all do we build on the

1669
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:21,839
shoulders of others

1670
01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:24,400
and i literally started looking for

1671
01:00:27,750 --> 01:00:24,960
these

1672
01:00:29,270 --> 01:00:27,760
cardinal grills in oh in the monument

1673
01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:29,280
let's find one in the monument

1674
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:32,160
so if you find the right grid length the

1675
01:00:35,430 --> 01:00:34,079
right number of letters to sort of wrap

1676
01:00:36,789 --> 01:00:35,440
around and around and around

1677
01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:36,799
then you start seeing the vertical

1678
01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:38,960
message showing up so i found it in the

1679
01:00:41,829 --> 01:00:40,240
monument and i found it in the silence

1680
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:41,839
dedication and i found it in the

1681
01:00:44,309 --> 01:00:42,720
gravestone

1682
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:44,319
and so when you find it in three places

1683
01:00:48,549 --> 01:00:46,720
you think well that's pretty yeah

1684
01:00:50,309 --> 01:00:48,559
i'm on to something here this is real

1685
01:00:52,069 --> 01:00:50,319
this is not imagination

1686
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:52,079
because the same messages are showing up

1687
01:00:55,109 --> 01:00:53,440
in all three

1688
01:00:57,510 --> 01:00:55,119
the stunning thing was that adding

1689
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:57,520
together all the text of the gravestone

1690
01:00:59,270 --> 01:00:58,559
and the monument and the science

1691
01:01:01,589 --> 01:00:59,280
dedication

1692
01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:01,599
including all those dots between the

1693
01:01:06,349 --> 01:01:02,960
words that i mentioned

1694
01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:06,359
and all the punctuation it added up to

1695
01:01:10,630 --> 01:01:07,920
624

1696
01:01:12,789 --> 01:01:10,640
characters and there was a special

1697
01:01:16,150 --> 01:01:12,799
document that john d

1698
01:01:19,349 --> 01:01:16,160
was renowned for having

1699
01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:19,359
received now here we get into

1700
01:01:23,349 --> 01:01:21,520
again the spiritual aspect of it

1701
01:01:29,750 --> 01:01:23,359
received

1702
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:29,760
if you look into junkie john d is

1703
01:01:35,109 --> 01:01:30,720
channeling

1704
01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:35,119
angels for eight years in europe

1705
01:01:38,710 --> 01:01:36,960
keeping it secret writing it in his

1706
01:01:40,309 --> 01:01:38,720
diaries because you could be burned at

1707
01:01:43,190 --> 01:01:40,319
the stake for such a thing

1708
01:01:45,589 --> 01:01:43,200
right in fact he tried to keep it hidden

1709
01:01:47,910 --> 01:01:45,599
but once he had died and 60 years later

1710
01:01:50,630 --> 01:01:47,920
so we find his writings and we realize

1711
01:01:52,069 --> 01:01:50,640
wow this is what he was doing

1712
01:01:54,230 --> 01:01:52,079
and he's actually got a bum rap because

1713
01:01:57,270 --> 01:01:54,240
people then even finding it later

1714
01:01:59,190 --> 01:01:57,280
tried to completely do a character

1715
01:02:02,309 --> 01:01:59,200
assassination on him

1716
01:02:03,829 --> 01:02:02,319
by writing what a crazy nut case he was

1717
01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:03,839
he was talking to the angels and there's

1718
01:02:07,829 --> 01:02:04,400
a lot of

1719
01:02:09,349 --> 01:02:07,839
john d that doesn't paint a very

1720
01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:09,359
flattering picture because it's written

1721
01:02:13,910 --> 01:02:10,960
by people who wanted to

1722
01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:13,920
who wanted to uh discredit him but

1723
01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:14,640
anyway

1724
01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:17,760
the point is these angels

1725
01:02:21,589 --> 01:02:19,920
if indeed that's who he was talking with

1726
01:02:25,910 --> 01:02:21,599
in seances

1727
01:02:29,349 --> 01:02:25,920
these angels channeled to him

1728
01:02:32,829 --> 01:02:29,359
something called the enochian tables

1729
01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:32,839
and it was channeled to him on

1730
01:02:39,589 --> 01:02:36,000
624 in 1584

1731
01:02:41,510 --> 01:02:39,599
june 24. it actually went from june 24th

1732
01:02:42,549 --> 01:02:41,520
through 5th to the 26th it was a very

1733
01:02:44,950 --> 01:02:42,559
very long

1734
01:02:46,870 --> 01:02:44,960
session where the angels are telling him

1735
01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:46,880
how to construct a grid of a certain

1736
01:02:52,710 --> 01:02:48,880
length and a certain size of a certain

1737
01:02:54,630 --> 01:02:52,720
shape and his seance uh

1738
01:02:55,990 --> 01:02:54,640
psychic we would call today but then

1739
01:02:56,870 --> 01:02:56,000
they were called a squire he had

1740
01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:56,880
somebody that was

1741
01:03:00,710 --> 01:02:58,400
receiving the messages because he was

1742
01:03:02,309 --> 01:03:00,720
clear clairvoyant from the angels

1743
01:03:04,230 --> 01:03:02,319
they're delivering these messages to

1744
01:03:06,630 --> 01:03:04,240
them letters one by one

1745
01:03:08,549 --> 01:03:06,640
in the enochian language it's a massive

1746
01:03:11,990 --> 01:03:08,559
massive story i mean you have to really

1747
01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:12,000
get into it too in depth but bottom line

1748
01:03:15,589 --> 01:03:12,960
is

1749
01:03:19,910 --> 01:03:15,599
they deliver to him a grid called the

1750
01:03:24,230 --> 01:03:19,920
enochian tables and it's 624 characters

1751
01:03:25,910 --> 01:03:24,240
and delivered on june 24 6 to 4.

1752
01:03:27,430 --> 01:03:25,920
and now i've found that in the

1753
01:03:28,630 --> 01:03:27,440
gravestone and the monument and the

1754
01:03:32,230 --> 01:03:28,640
dedication

1755
01:03:35,530 --> 01:03:32,240
to the 624 characters

1756
01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:35,540
oh well maybe

1757
01:03:41,190 --> 01:03:36,720
[Music]

1758
01:03:43,990 --> 01:03:41,200
this is just pure regular cryptography

1759
01:03:44,710 --> 01:03:44,000
and also just a side note but june 24th

1760
01:03:46,630 --> 01:03:44,720
was the

1761
01:03:49,029 --> 01:03:46,640
summer solstice then which is this other

1762
01:03:51,510 --> 01:03:49,039
weird detail that seems to tie into

1763
01:03:53,109 --> 01:03:51,520
maybe the connection between us and the

1764
01:03:55,510 --> 01:03:53,119
spirit world maybe that's why

1765
01:03:56,710 --> 01:03:55,520
messages can come through clear at that

1766
01:03:58,230 --> 01:03:56,720
time i don't know but the summer

1767
01:03:58,870 --> 01:03:58,240
solstice and these certain points in the

1768
01:04:00,390 --> 01:03:58,880
calendar

1769
01:04:02,069 --> 01:04:00,400
they come up a lot in these types of

1770
01:04:04,630 --> 01:04:02,079
stories you got it

1771
01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:04,640
absolutely no it's not it is absolutely

1772
01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:06,480
the whole crux of the thing is

1773
01:04:09,589 --> 01:04:09,200
in those days it was celebrated on six

1774
01:04:17,270 --> 01:04:09,599
to

1775
01:04:18,870 --> 01:04:17,280
as june 21 or 22. but remember the

1776
01:04:20,470 --> 01:04:18,880
calendar was all out of whack

1777
01:04:22,789 --> 01:04:20,480
during that time it was between the

1778
01:04:25,750 --> 01:04:22,799
julian carolina and the gregorian

1779
01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:25,760
calendar and at that time it was

1780
01:04:29,510 --> 01:04:28,000
celebrated on june 24th

1781
01:04:31,109 --> 01:04:29,520
and still is today in certain

1782
01:04:33,029 --> 01:04:31,119
scandinavian countries

1783
01:04:34,630 --> 01:04:33,039
so there was a significance to this not

1784
01:04:36,150 --> 01:04:34,640
only that it goes deeper because june

1785
01:04:40,630 --> 01:04:36,160
24th

1786
01:04:44,069 --> 01:04:40,640
is the feast day of john the baptist

1787
01:04:47,510 --> 01:04:44,079
who is the patron saint of who

1788
01:04:49,510 --> 01:04:47,520
i don't know freemasons oh there we go

1789
01:04:50,789 --> 01:04:49,520
i was gonna say the knights templar but

1790
01:04:53,029 --> 01:04:50,799
it's all wrapped up in

1791
01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:53,039
the same kind of stuff it's the egyptian

1792
01:04:57,029 --> 01:04:54,960
mystery schools then through the knights

1793
01:04:58,870 --> 01:04:57,039
templar then through the rossi crucians

1794
01:05:00,470 --> 01:04:58,880
which was the secret society at the time

1795
01:05:03,670 --> 01:05:00,480
of shakespeare and john d

1796
01:05:05,270 --> 01:05:03,680
john d was in fact most notably

1797
01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:05,280
uh there's no proof because it's a

1798
01:05:09,029 --> 01:05:06,720
secret society but

1799
01:05:10,630 --> 01:05:09,039
men lots and lots and lots of evidence

1800
01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:10,640
points for the fact that he was the head

1801
01:05:13,829 --> 01:05:12,720
of the russia crucials along with

1802
01:05:15,510 --> 01:05:13,839
francis bacon

1803
01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:15,520
and then the russians morph into the

1804
01:05:19,910 --> 01:05:17,680
freemasons and so

1805
01:05:21,109 --> 01:05:19,920
a particular branch of freemasons royal

1806
01:05:24,950 --> 01:05:21,119
arch freemasonry

1807
01:05:26,309 --> 01:05:24,960
which has as its symbol the royal arch

1808
01:05:27,829 --> 01:05:26,319
the royal arch is about what

1809
01:05:30,549 --> 01:05:27,839
it's about the sun's movement through

1810
01:05:32,309 --> 01:05:30,559
the equinox and that point at the

1811
01:05:34,230 --> 01:05:32,319
at which the sun is at its highest point

1812
01:05:35,029 --> 01:05:34,240
which is what what you just said summer

1813
01:05:37,029 --> 01:05:35,039
solstice

1814
01:05:38,789 --> 01:05:37,039
so the entire thing is based around this

1815
01:05:42,069 --> 01:05:38,799
six to four

1816
01:05:45,589 --> 01:05:42,079
and then when you realize that oh but

1817
01:05:48,549 --> 01:05:45,599
the man that we're told is shakespeare

1818
01:05:48,950 --> 01:05:48,559
who spelled his name various ways but

1819
01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:48,960
was

1820
01:05:56,150 --> 01:05:52,559
always with a hard a sound shaq's birth

1821
01:05:58,549 --> 01:05:56,160
so it's shakespeare or shakespeare or

1822
01:05:59,990 --> 01:05:58,559
it's spelled various ways in these only

1823
01:06:00,710 --> 01:06:00,000
remaining six signatures but

1824
01:06:03,109 --> 01:06:00,720
nevertheless

1825
01:06:04,630 --> 01:06:03,119
it's never shake it's always shack

1826
01:06:07,990 --> 01:06:04,640
shakespeare

1827
01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:08,000
was baptized on uh

1828
01:06:13,270 --> 01:06:11,520
426 april 26th

1829
01:06:16,150 --> 01:06:13,280
now in my first book on all of this

1830
01:06:19,430 --> 01:06:16,160
which took six years to produce

1831
01:06:19,829 --> 01:06:19,440
i i actually proved that that's part of

1832
01:06:23,750 --> 01:06:19,839
the

1833
01:06:25,670 --> 01:06:23,760
lightly it's slam dunk you can see it

1834
01:06:29,349 --> 01:06:25,680
it's very very very clear

1835
01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:29,359
that the actual uh baptism uh registry

1836
01:06:32,789 --> 01:06:30,640
in stratford

1837
01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:32,799
is not the original the original has

1838
01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:33,760
disappeared

1839
01:06:41,270 --> 01:06:37,680
and the one that is there that states

1840
01:06:43,109 --> 01:06:41,280
426 for shakespeare's baptism

1841
01:06:45,029 --> 01:06:43,119
there are 50 years of records all

1842
01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:45,039
written in the same hand

1843
01:06:49,029 --> 01:06:47,839
going back way before jacksburg to wake

1844
01:06:53,190 --> 01:06:49,039
past checks but

1845
01:06:55,750 --> 01:06:53,200
in other words this was uh

1846
01:06:57,109 --> 01:06:55,760
very conveniently written to implant

1847
01:06:59,190 --> 01:06:57,119
that four to six

1848
01:07:01,029 --> 01:06:59,200
date as the date for which we would

1849
01:07:03,190 --> 01:07:01,039
associate with

1850
01:07:04,230 --> 01:07:03,200
shakespeare ultimately another

1851
01:07:08,150 --> 01:07:04,240
breadcrumb

1852
01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:08,160
six is six two four reversed

1853
01:07:12,870 --> 01:07:11,119
and all of the codes all of the codes

1854
01:07:15,190 --> 01:07:12,880
that shakespeare is leaving for us

1855
01:07:16,150 --> 01:07:15,200
have to work both ways and so what i

1856
01:07:17,990 --> 01:07:16,160
found was

1857
01:07:19,510 --> 01:07:18,000
in forwards and backwards there are all

1858
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:19,520
kinds of clues like this in the first

1859
01:07:23,829 --> 01:07:22,319
folio the big big book that has all 36

1860
01:07:27,029 --> 01:07:23,839
of shakespeare's plays in it

1861
01:07:29,990 --> 01:07:27,039
most expensive book on the planner

1862
01:07:32,230 --> 01:07:30,000
most expensive printed book in the world

1863
01:07:34,230 --> 01:07:32,240
uh the last one that went on auction

1864
01:07:36,549 --> 01:07:34,240
was bought by the man who died yesterday

1865
01:07:39,750 --> 01:07:36,559
paul allen of microsoft paul ellen

1866
01:07:40,789 --> 01:07:39,760
uh bought a bid for it at sotheby's in

1867
01:07:43,510 --> 01:07:40,799
2006 he

1868
01:07:44,069 --> 01:07:43,520
paid six and a half million dollars for

1869
01:07:47,510 --> 01:07:44,079
one book

1870
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:47,520
first folio wow and uh

1871
01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:49,520
and when you have a copy a facsimile of

1872
01:07:51,910 --> 01:07:51,359
it you see it's full of wrong page

1873
01:07:56,549 --> 01:07:51,920
numbers

1874
01:07:58,549 --> 01:07:56,559
of a code but for instance the very very

1875
01:08:01,829 --> 01:07:58,559
last page in the book

1876
01:08:04,870 --> 01:08:01,839
should be 399 but it's 993

1877
01:08:07,910 --> 01:08:04,880
it's backwards and and so you end up

1878
01:08:10,710 --> 01:08:07,920
with this this this interesting

1879
01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:10,720
fascinating thing of wow they're all

1880
01:08:14,710 --> 01:08:11,200
about

1881
01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:14,720
mirror imagery six two four and four

1882
01:08:20,709 --> 01:08:17,839
two six three nine nine and nine

1883
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:20,719
nine three everything has to work both

1884
01:08:24,470 --> 01:08:22,400
ways because it's a

1885
01:08:26,309 --> 01:08:24,480
part of a principle of prosecutionism

1886
01:08:29,749 --> 01:08:26,319
there's perfect balance

1887
01:08:32,550 --> 01:08:29,759
alchemy the balancing of opposites

1888
01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:32,560
lightened up male and female it's all

1889
01:08:36,829 --> 01:08:34,400
part of the encoding and it's what makes

1890
01:08:40,470 --> 01:08:36,839
it very very elegant and beautiful

1891
01:08:43,030 --> 01:08:40,480
anyway this encoding in the enochian

1892
01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:43,040
tables that is 624 characters

1893
01:08:46,390 --> 01:08:45,120
basically i i figured out oh so the

1894
01:08:49,030 --> 01:08:46,400
grave and the monument

1895
01:08:50,950 --> 01:08:49,040
and the sinus dedication 624 they must

1896
01:08:54,070 --> 01:08:50,960
be what's called

1897
01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:54,080
ciphertext ciphertext points across to

1898
01:08:56,550 --> 01:08:55,920
another thing and that's the inoculum

1899
01:08:59,110 --> 01:08:56,560
tables

1900
01:09:00,070 --> 01:08:59,120
which is called plaintext and if you

1901
01:09:03,829 --> 01:09:00,080
know the key

1902
01:09:06,950 --> 01:09:03,839
in the ciphertext which i knew from

1903
01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:06,960
having done now 14 years research on it

1904
01:09:11,349 --> 01:09:08,319
but at the time i got this

1905
01:09:12,070 --> 01:09:11,359
six years into it you know the key uh he

1906
01:09:14,229 --> 01:09:12,080
tells you

1907
01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:14,239
very very clearly in the plays and in in

1908
01:09:17,590 --> 01:09:15,199
the summits and

1909
01:09:18,709 --> 01:09:17,600
won't go into that you can see it online

1910
01:09:20,470 --> 01:09:18,719
but when you know the key

1911
01:09:22,229 --> 01:09:20,480
oh the key is certain letters that point

1912
01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:22,239
across so there's letters pointing

1913
01:09:27,510 --> 01:09:25,199
across from ciphertext to plain text

1914
01:09:28,630 --> 01:09:27,520
and it tells you a message but it's not

1915
01:09:30,950 --> 01:09:28,640
the complete message

1916
01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:30,960
it's just part of it where you then have

1917
01:09:34,550 --> 01:09:33,040
to turn it around and make it work in

1918
01:09:36,070 --> 01:09:34,560
the opposite direction

1919
01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:36,080
because if everything is mirrored

1920
01:09:38,709 --> 01:09:37,920
imagery bottom line on all this is you

1921
01:09:40,309 --> 01:09:38,719
do that

1922
01:09:42,709 --> 01:09:40,319
and it gives you a message that tells

1923
01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:42,719
you to look inside the altar

1924
01:09:47,749 --> 01:09:45,520
of holy trinity church stratfor where

1925
01:09:51,189 --> 01:09:47,759
shakespeare has left something for us

1926
01:09:54,310 --> 01:09:51,199
physically wow he's left something of

1927
01:09:55,270 --> 01:09:54,320
physical evidence now shakespeare's left

1928
01:09:57,669 --> 01:09:55,280
nothing

1929
01:09:59,270 --> 01:09:57,679
the entire uh academic story the

1930
01:10:01,430 --> 01:09:59,280
official orthodox stories

1931
01:10:02,870 --> 01:10:01,440
shakespeare left nothing nothing there's

1932
01:10:04,790 --> 01:10:02,880
no paper trail

1933
01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:04,800
and yet here he is saying i've left

1934
01:10:07,830 --> 01:10:06,640
something for you and it's in a certain

1935
01:10:08,310 --> 01:10:07,840
place and you can go and look you can

1936
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:08,320
get it

1937
01:10:12,149 --> 01:10:09,840
it's right there i'm telling you where

1938
01:10:14,149 --> 01:10:12,159
it is it's in the altar stone

1939
01:10:16,229 --> 01:10:14,159
which is about 12 feet from it from

1940
01:10:18,550 --> 01:10:16,239
shakespeare's grave

1941
01:10:19,669 --> 01:10:18,560
wow right and for people who haven't

1942
01:10:21,910 --> 01:10:19,679
seen the photo

1943
01:10:24,229 --> 01:10:21,920
of what the altar area looks like in

1944
01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:24,239
this church it's very strange because

1945
01:10:29,590 --> 01:10:27,760
shakespeare's tomb is almost up on the

1946
01:10:31,350 --> 01:10:29,600
stage with the altar it's like right

1947
01:10:32,470 --> 01:10:31,360
next to the altar it's a very weird

1948
01:10:34,470 --> 01:10:32,480
place it's not like it's out in a

1949
01:10:36,950 --> 01:10:34,480
cemetery outside the church it's like

1950
01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:36,960
right up in there and there's that off

1951
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:38,719
to the left and then you have of course

1952
01:10:41,830 --> 01:10:39,760
the altar

1953
01:10:43,669 --> 01:10:41,840
and as i've heard you say altar stones

1954
01:10:44,149 --> 01:10:43,679
contain a pocket that's maybe the size

1955
01:10:45,990 --> 01:10:44,159
of a

1956
01:10:47,189 --> 01:10:46,000
deck of cards or something and they're

1957
01:10:49,510 --> 01:10:47,199
supposed to be

1958
01:10:50,470 --> 01:10:49,520
some kind of relics that relate to the

1959
01:10:53,189 --> 01:10:50,480
saint that

1960
01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:53,199
the altar is consecrated to but in this

1961
01:10:55,830 --> 01:10:53,760
case

1962
01:10:57,270 --> 01:10:55,840
as you are going to tell us in the story

1963
01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:57,280
of the stratford heist

1964
01:11:02,470 --> 01:11:00,320
this is quite different yeah yeah

1965
01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:02,480
so what greg is saying there is that

1966
01:11:07,110 --> 01:11:04,880
there's something called a saints cavity

1967
01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:07,120
that has to be in a

1968
01:11:13,510 --> 01:11:12,400
consecrated catholic ultrastone now this

1969
01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:13,520
con secreted

1970
01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:16,480
catholic alpha stone was first uh put

1971
01:11:22,189 --> 01:11:17,520
into the church and

1972
01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:22,199
that was concentrated in 1208 so

1973
01:11:26,149 --> 01:11:24,560
810 years ago

1974
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:26,159
so it's been there a long time and what

1975
01:11:31,110 --> 01:11:27,920
happens when they

1976
01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:31,120
consecrate an altar stone and it has to

1977
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:32,000
be the high

1978
01:11:35,110 --> 01:11:33,600
the holy of holies it's called the holy

1979
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:35,120
of holies ultrasound

1980
01:11:41,590 --> 01:11:38,400
the high altar where mass is

1981
01:11:43,990 --> 01:11:41,600
celebrated the mystery of mass and what

1982
01:11:45,910 --> 01:11:44,000
they do is they cut a hole in the

1983
01:11:47,669 --> 01:11:45,920
bottom of that stone and that stone is

1984
01:11:50,229 --> 01:11:47,679
about three tons

1985
01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:50,239
of solid marble it's nine foot long

1986
01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:51,600
three foot wide and a

1987
01:11:55,510 --> 01:11:54,880
couple of feet deep right so it's a big

1988
01:11:59,910 --> 01:11:55,520
big

1989
01:12:02,229 --> 01:11:59,920
they cut out

1990
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:02,239
a little portion of it underneath

1991
01:12:06,630 --> 01:12:03,120
originally

1992
01:12:09,189 --> 01:12:06,640
back in 1208 and the catholic church

1993
01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:09,199
says that this has to be the holding

1994
01:12:13,510 --> 01:12:10,560
place for

1995
01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:13,520
what's called a reliquary they put in a

1996
01:12:17,189 --> 01:12:14,480
little

1997
01:12:18,470 --> 01:12:17,199
gold or silver or lead box very

1998
01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:18,480
interesting

1999
01:12:24,870 --> 01:12:21,600
gold and silver and lead boxes

2000
01:12:28,229 --> 01:12:24,880
strike a chord for you that has

2001
01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:28,239
nothing to do with alchemy

2002
01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:31,679
and which play that i don't know okay

2003
01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:35,280
well it's something to do with merchant

2004
01:12:38,070 --> 01:12:36,560
of venice

2005
01:12:40,390 --> 01:12:38,080
there's a choice of you must choose the

2006
01:12:42,149 --> 01:12:40,400
gold or the silver or the lead box and

2007
01:12:45,189 --> 01:12:42,159
merchants of venice

2008
01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:45,199
to the hand off the fair lady

2009
01:12:51,990 --> 01:12:49,040
anyhow so the thing is it's got a little

2010
01:12:53,350 --> 01:12:52,000
a little gold or silver or lead box

2011
01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:53,360
inside

2012
01:12:57,590 --> 01:12:54,960
called the reliquary that is placed

2013
01:13:00,709 --> 01:12:57,600
inside this hole that they cut in the

2014
01:13:02,870 --> 01:13:00,719
altar called a sepulchram and inside

2015
01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:02,880
that box rome sends over

2016
01:13:08,229 --> 01:13:06,080
relics of a saint relics would be a few

2017
01:13:11,189 --> 01:13:08,239
slices of bone

2018
01:13:13,270 --> 01:13:11,199
or some of the saints writings or a

2019
01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:13,280
piece of cloth of the saints

2020
01:13:17,350 --> 01:13:15,600
clothing something but so small it's

2021
01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:17,360
about the size of a small

2022
01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:19,520
bigger than a pack of playing cards but

2023
01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:20,880
maybe the size of a small

2024
01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:24,560
child's shoe box and it's placed inside

2025
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:27,120
and then the block of stone is cut a

2026
01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:28,080
little bit and placed

2027
01:13:31,830 --> 01:13:30,480
back in and cemented back in underneath

2028
01:13:32,870 --> 01:13:31,840
you can't see any of this this is

2029
01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:32,880
underneath

2030
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:35,920
the altar stone you see the visible top

2031
01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:37,760
the underneath part is surrounded by the

2032
01:13:42,630 --> 01:13:39,600
altar itself

2033
01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:42,640
and that is then it's considered holy

2034
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:43,679
because it's got

2035
01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:47,040
what the catholic church says is

2036
01:13:51,110 --> 01:13:49,840
parts of the body of the saint and then

2037
01:13:54,070 --> 01:13:51,120
they incise

2038
01:13:55,110 --> 01:13:54,080
five crosses on the surface of that

2039
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:55,120
stone

2040
01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:57,840
which represent the five stigmata wounds

2041
01:14:01,430 --> 01:13:59,040
of christ

2042
01:14:02,149 --> 01:14:01,440
two nails in the hands the two nails in

2043
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:02,159
the feet

2044
01:14:07,830 --> 01:14:05,520
and the spear inside and then when

2045
01:14:09,510 --> 01:14:07,840
all of that is done then that stone is

2046
01:14:12,550 --> 01:14:09,520
considered consecrated

2047
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:12,560
and a fit vehicle for the mystery of

2048
01:14:20,070 --> 01:14:13,120
mass

2049
01:14:23,189 --> 01:14:20,080
you the eucharist

2050
01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:23,199
which represents the body of christ and

2051
01:14:26,790 --> 01:14:25,120
the wine which represents the blood of

2052
01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:26,800
christ and this is the

2053
01:14:30,149 --> 01:14:29,120
communion holy communion where the

2054
01:14:33,350 --> 01:14:30,159
recipient

2055
01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:33,360
is supposed to feel that connection with

2056
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:36,640
their particular savior jesus christ

2057
01:14:44,229 --> 01:14:41,120
okay so that's mass and that alter stone

2058
01:14:47,030 --> 01:14:44,239
is called the holy of holies and

2059
01:14:48,070 --> 01:14:47,040
it has a name it derives from the

2060
01:14:50,149 --> 01:14:48,080
original name

2061
01:14:52,390 --> 01:14:50,159
of the original holy of holies although

2062
01:14:54,470 --> 01:14:52,400
stone in solomon's temple

2063
01:14:56,229 --> 01:14:54,480
very important to the freemasons right

2064
01:14:57,030 --> 01:14:56,239
into the lost secretions and to the

2065
01:15:00,310 --> 01:14:57,040
egypt

2066
01:15:02,229 --> 01:15:00,320
whole

2067
01:15:03,910 --> 01:15:02,239
the nice templar it's all part of the

2068
01:15:06,709 --> 01:15:03,920
egyptian mystery school

2069
01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:06,719
mythology that comes down to us about

2070
01:15:12,229 --> 01:15:07,520
what is

2071
01:15:15,590 --> 01:15:15,110
is called in in solomon's temple it

2072
01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:15,600
would be

2073
01:15:23,110 --> 01:15:18,640
held inside the

2074
01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:23,120
the place that's called

2075
01:15:26,630 --> 01:15:24,960
well it has a it has a hebrew name that

2076
01:15:28,470 --> 01:15:26,640
i will get to does anybody know

2077
01:15:30,390 --> 01:15:28,480
do you remember what is supposed to be

2078
01:15:33,669 --> 01:15:30,400
inside that inside that

2079
01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:33,679
area it's the ark of the covenant

2080
01:15:40,470 --> 01:15:36,880
the dark of the covenant holds the

2081
01:15:43,270 --> 01:15:40,480
broken pieces of the ten commandments

2082
01:15:43,669 --> 01:15:43,280
okay well now we're back to that story

2083
01:15:46,229 --> 01:15:43,679
of

2084
01:15:47,030 --> 01:15:46,239
god saying here's the ten commandments i

2085
01:15:49,750 --> 01:15:47,040
am that i

2086
01:15:51,110 --> 01:15:49,760
am well all of that is in solomon's

2087
01:15:54,470 --> 01:15:51,120
temple it's the most holy

2088
01:15:56,390 --> 01:15:54,480
worship place uh in

2089
01:15:58,149 --> 01:15:56,400
the whole mythology of all of this and

2090
01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:58,159
it's right it's now where the temple

2091
01:16:01,030 --> 01:15:59,280
mount is

2092
01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:01,040
in jerusalem and the source of the whole

2093
01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:03,520
middle east unrest

2094
01:16:10,310 --> 01:16:07,120
because uh that's where

2095
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:10,320
the original first solomon's temple was

2096
01:16:14,790 --> 01:16:13,360
and then was destroyed the interesting

2097
01:16:18,070 --> 01:16:14,800
thing is the name

2098
01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:18,080
of that place that holy of hole is

2099
01:16:22,070 --> 01:16:20,320
where the ten commandments are held

2100
01:16:26,950 --> 01:16:22,080
there is called

2101
01:16:33,830 --> 01:16:30,390
and one of the candidates

2102
01:16:37,510 --> 01:16:33,840
for shape being shakespeare is edward

2103
01:16:40,149 --> 01:16:37,520
de vere the 17th earl of oxford

2104
01:16:40,550 --> 01:16:40,159
and so the people that believe de vere

2105
01:16:47,110 --> 01:16:40,560
is

2106
01:16:48,630 --> 01:16:47,120
it had a shakespearean conference and i

2107
01:16:50,070 --> 01:16:48,640
said you know what you know what the

2108
01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:50,080
holy of holies is actually called it's

2109
01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:51,280
called the divir

2110
01:16:55,510 --> 01:16:53,920
and it comes from the root word is it's

2111
01:17:00,149 --> 01:16:55,520
wonderful really the

2112
01:17:02,390 --> 01:17:00,159
word in hebrew which means word

2113
01:17:03,990 --> 01:17:02,400
it comes from word and therefore being

2114
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:04,000
the pla the holy of holies it's the

2115
01:17:06,709 --> 01:17:04,880
sacred

2116
01:17:08,229 --> 01:17:06,719
word which if you go back to the very

2117
01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:08,239
very beginnings in the beginning was the

2118
01:17:12,790 --> 01:17:08,960
word

2119
01:17:15,350 --> 01:17:12,800
it's the om

2120
01:17:17,590 --> 01:17:15,360
vibration in in eastern religions it's

2121
01:17:21,110 --> 01:17:17,600
it's the sound it's the word

2122
01:17:26,709 --> 01:17:21,120
it's the vibrate vibratory force word is

2123
01:17:32,950 --> 01:17:30,070
itself means truth or truly or true in

2124
01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:32,960
latin from veritas and diver's name is

2125
01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:34,000
dirk vir

2126
01:17:39,510 --> 01:17:37,120
his his his very name is

2127
01:17:41,830 --> 01:17:39,520
all about this and so whether you

2128
01:17:44,310 --> 01:17:41,840
believe he is the shakespeare or not i

2129
01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:44,320
i personally have a strong feeling that

2130
01:17:47,430 --> 01:17:45,360
this is

2131
01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:47,440
all part of that story very very very

2132
01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:49,280
much so because i see his name

2133
01:17:53,110 --> 01:17:50,719
over and over and over and over in the

2134
01:17:56,149 --> 01:17:53,120
codes anyway

2135
01:17:59,590 --> 01:17:56,159
bottom line you've got wow

2136
01:18:03,030 --> 01:17:59,600
it's point the the codes are saying

2137
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:03,040
the truth of my identity

2138
01:18:09,590 --> 01:18:06,960
is in the holy of holies in the divis

2139
01:18:10,149 --> 01:18:09,600
wow so i was told that i see that in the

2140
01:18:13,350 --> 01:18:10,159
codes

2141
01:18:15,110 --> 01:18:13,360
themselves

2142
01:18:16,790 --> 01:18:15,120
um well first of all you have to know

2143
01:18:18,149 --> 01:18:16,800
that there's a tremendous resistance

2144
01:18:20,390 --> 01:18:18,159
within the

2145
01:18:22,390 --> 01:18:20,400
stratfordian community the official

2146
01:18:25,990 --> 01:18:22,400
orthodox story about shakespeare

2147
01:18:28,070 --> 01:18:26,000
to any insinuation that he might not

2148
01:18:29,990 --> 01:18:28,080
be the real writer of course and that's

2149
01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:30,000
understandable because

2150
01:18:36,149 --> 01:18:33,120
their whole existence for

2151
01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:36,159
400 years has been based around this is

2152
01:18:40,149 --> 01:18:37,360
the guy

2153
01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:40,159
right stratford itself is a town that

2154
01:18:45,910 --> 01:18:42,159
lives off shakespeare every

2155
01:18:47,669 --> 01:18:45,920
hotel cafe and every small business

2156
01:18:49,430 --> 01:18:47,679
has some name associated with

2157
01:18:50,709 --> 01:18:49,440
shakespeare people flock there in the

2158
01:18:52,310 --> 01:18:50,719
millions and they

2159
01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:52,320
buy the trinkets and the mugs and

2160
01:18:56,950 --> 01:18:55,040
t-shirts and they visit the church

2161
01:18:58,070 --> 01:18:56,960
all with respect i'm not making fun of

2162
01:19:01,430 --> 01:18:58,080
that at all i mean i

2163
01:19:05,189 --> 01:19:01,440
i understand it but i knew that

2164
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:05,199
i had to get to the church to

2165
01:19:09,430 --> 01:19:08,000
tell them that i had found this

2166
01:19:11,270 --> 01:19:09,440
information that said there's something

2167
01:19:12,470 --> 01:19:11,280
perhaps very very important in your

2168
01:19:13,910 --> 01:19:12,480
church

2169
01:19:15,669 --> 01:19:13,920
right it just kind of adds to the

2170
01:19:17,510 --> 01:19:15,679
difficulty because there is so much

2171
01:19:19,590 --> 01:19:17,520
money being made off of tourism

2172
01:19:21,590 --> 01:19:19,600
even the church itself people go there

2173
01:19:25,189 --> 01:19:21,600
and they pay to get up there and

2174
01:19:27,910 --> 01:19:25,199
get close to the grave of shakespeare

2175
01:19:28,870 --> 01:19:27,920
so we have this big story you know we

2176
01:19:32,070 --> 01:19:28,880
told us about your

2177
01:19:34,070 --> 01:19:32,080
personal history there's resistance to

2178
01:19:36,149 --> 01:19:34,080
upsetting the apple cart with this

2179
01:19:37,350 --> 01:19:36,159
mystery but you know it's pointing to

2180
01:19:39,590 --> 01:19:37,360
the altar stone

2181
01:19:40,550 --> 01:19:39,600
and you want to get in there and that's

2182
01:19:42,229 --> 01:19:40,560
the roadblock

2183
01:19:43,750 --> 01:19:42,239
that i was referring to earlier because

2184
01:19:46,470 --> 01:19:43,760
it's going to upset the apple cart

2185
01:19:48,229 --> 01:19:46,480
they're not going to really be very open

2186
01:19:49,510 --> 01:19:48,239
to just yeah sure let's just crack this

2187
01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:49,520
thing open and

2188
01:19:53,750 --> 01:19:51,760
let's lose all our tourism money they're

2189
01:19:56,790 --> 01:19:53,760
not open to the risk there

2190
01:19:57,430 --> 01:19:56,800
and parts of your personal story helped

2191
01:20:00,790 --> 01:19:57,440
to

2192
01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:00,800
about that

2193
01:20:04,870 --> 01:20:03,679
yeah so the codes are saying it's in the

2194
01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:04,880
altar

2195
01:20:11,830 --> 01:20:08,560
that alterstone is a

2196
01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:11,840
a holy relic uh b

2197
01:20:18,229 --> 01:20:14,880
one of the most visited tourist

2198
01:20:18,790 --> 01:20:18,239
churches in and and attractions in all

2199
01:20:21,990 --> 01:20:18,800
of england

2200
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:22,000
second behind the tower of london it is

2201
01:20:26,229 --> 01:20:22,960
protected by

2202
01:20:27,110 --> 01:20:26,239
24-hour cctv cameras busloads of

2203
01:20:30,149 --> 01:20:27,120
tourists are

2204
01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:30,159
arriving continuously all the time every

2205
01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:32,480
time i've been there it's just bus load

2206
01:20:36,470 --> 01:20:33,360
after bus load

2207
01:20:37,669 --> 01:20:36,480
bus load coming in and flocking to stand

2208
01:20:39,030 --> 01:20:37,679
there at the grave for a couple of

2209
01:20:42,229 --> 01:20:39,040
minutes and then

2210
01:20:44,709 --> 01:20:42,239
take snap a few picks and come out

2211
01:20:45,990 --> 01:20:44,719
it's protected by a forensic system that

2212
01:20:49,030 --> 01:20:46,000
sprays you with a chemical

2213
01:20:49,669 --> 01:20:49,040
if you get too near to the altar when

2214
01:20:52,470 --> 01:20:49,679
you're not

2215
01:20:54,149 --> 01:20:52,480
supposed to be there or even to the

2216
01:20:57,189 --> 01:20:54,159
grave the grave itself is

2217
01:21:00,310 --> 01:20:57,199
fenced off with a brass rail

2218
01:21:02,629 --> 01:21:00,320
and you can't just go in and look at

2219
01:21:04,310 --> 01:21:02,639
it you can look at it from you know just

2220
01:21:06,550 --> 01:21:04,320
the other side of that brass rail but

2221
01:21:07,830 --> 01:21:06,560
nevertheless it's nice to say it's all

2222
01:21:09,750 --> 01:21:07,840
highly protected

2223
01:21:11,350 --> 01:21:09,760
i'm not going to just walk in there and

2224
01:21:13,270 --> 01:21:11,360
be able to again

2225
01:21:14,229 --> 01:21:13,280
you know okay i know it's in the altar

2226
01:21:15,510 --> 01:21:14,239
there's something in the altar

2227
01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:15,520
shakespeare left or something in the

2228
01:21:18,070 --> 01:21:16,000
altar

2229
01:21:19,669 --> 01:21:18,080
i mean you think it's true if i was to

2230
01:21:22,790 --> 01:21:19,679
say to you now

2231
01:21:25,990 --> 01:21:22,800
uh behind this wall here in uh

2232
01:21:28,390 --> 01:21:26,000
somewhere in italy there's a

2233
01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:28,400
there's another da vinci perhaps a new

2234
01:21:31,750 --> 01:21:30,080
mona lisa you know should we go and have

2235
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:31,760
a look

2236
01:21:36,390 --> 01:21:34,800
no let's not bother

2237
01:21:38,310 --> 01:21:36,400
i mean yeah of course we go and have a

2238
01:21:40,229 --> 01:21:38,320
look if we went and

2239
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:40,239
said we found some basement where you

2240
01:21:45,910 --> 01:21:42,480
know what under this basement there's uh

2241
01:21:50,470 --> 01:21:45,920
beethoven's 10th we didn't know he wrote

2242
01:21:53,110 --> 01:21:50,480
a 10th symphony so should we have a look

2243
01:21:54,070 --> 01:21:53,120
obviously the world should beat a path

2244
01:21:57,350 --> 01:21:54,080
to the door

2245
01:21:58,470 --> 01:21:57,360
of the church and say my god if there's

2246
01:22:00,310 --> 01:21:58,480
something in there that

2247
01:22:02,229 --> 01:22:00,320
i mean shakespeare left nothing there's

2248
01:22:05,110 --> 01:22:02,239
this big mystery

2249
01:22:06,149 --> 01:22:05,120
it could be all the missing manuscripts

2250
01:22:07,669 --> 01:22:06,159
right it could be

2251
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:07,679
it could be the missing manuscripts of

2252
01:22:11,669 --> 01:22:10,080
hamlet and romeo and juliet king lear

2253
01:22:13,669 --> 01:22:11,679
and midsummer night's stream in twelfth

2254
01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:13,679
night and or it could be something new

2255
01:22:16,390 --> 01:22:15,120
that we've never heard or

2256
01:22:18,310 --> 01:22:16,400
i mean it could be anything it could be

2257
01:22:19,669 --> 01:22:18,320
a laundry list whatever it is if it's a

2258
01:22:21,590 --> 01:22:19,679
laundry list in his own hand they could

2259
01:22:23,110 --> 01:22:21,600
slap it up on a wall in a museum and

2260
01:22:24,390 --> 01:22:23,120
charge whatever they wanted for

2261
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:24,400
people to see it for the rest of

2262
01:22:28,390 --> 01:22:26,400
eternity because it would be the one

2263
01:22:31,350 --> 01:22:28,400
thing we have of shakespeare's

2264
01:22:31,750 --> 01:22:31,360
we have nothing and yet here's news

2265
01:22:33,110 --> 01:22:31,760
saying

2266
01:22:35,990 --> 01:22:33,120
he's left something for us and it's

2267
01:22:39,910 --> 01:22:36,000
right there in a very obvious place

2268
01:22:42,390 --> 01:22:39,920
the truth is inside the most sacred holy

2269
01:22:43,350 --> 01:22:42,400
altar stone called the diver called the

2270
01:22:46,229 --> 01:22:43,360
truth

2271
01:22:46,870 --> 01:22:46,239
wow so is that and i know it's there but

2272
01:22:49,189 --> 01:22:46,880
i'm going to be

2273
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:49,199
strongly resisted and so i had to go and

2274
01:22:53,189 --> 01:22:50,880
try to

2275
01:22:53,910 --> 01:22:53,199
now on many levels this is awkward

2276
01:22:57,030 --> 01:22:53,920
because

2277
01:23:00,229 --> 01:22:57,040
i am going there to try to find

2278
01:23:03,350 --> 01:23:00,239
if i can convince them to let me

2279
01:23:05,189 --> 01:23:03,360
have a close look or or you know for us

2280
01:23:07,430 --> 01:23:05,199
all to have a close look

2281
01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:07,440
but i do know i know absolutely it's

2282
01:23:11,510 --> 01:23:09,360
going to be existed because what you

2283
01:23:13,189 --> 01:23:11,520
said it's a multi-billion dollar tourism

2284
01:23:15,189 --> 01:23:13,199
industry

2285
01:23:16,870 --> 01:23:15,199
it's going to be resisted by the tourism

2286
01:23:19,350 --> 01:23:16,880
aspect it's going to be resisted on the

2287
01:23:21,910 --> 01:23:19,360
academic aspect because for

2288
01:23:22,950 --> 01:23:21,920
200 years let's say academia has been

2289
01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:22,960
teaching

2290
01:23:26,550 --> 01:23:25,920
this story of the man from stratford who

2291
01:23:28,709 --> 01:23:26,560
is

2292
01:23:30,310 --> 01:23:28,719
shakespeare but there's no life so don't

2293
01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:30,320
pay any attention don't worry about that

2294
01:23:33,910 --> 01:23:32,080
but we know nothing about him

2295
01:23:35,110 --> 01:23:33,920
we suppose a lot we think he must have

2296
01:23:36,550 --> 01:23:35,120
done this and did that because that's

2297
01:23:37,189 --> 01:23:36,560
why there's a hundred thousand books on

2298
01:23:38,629 --> 01:23:37,199
him

2299
01:23:39,910 --> 01:23:38,639
but don't you know don't pay any

2300
01:23:41,590 --> 01:23:39,920
attention to that we have the works

2301
01:23:43,910 --> 01:23:41,600
that's all that matters

2302
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:43,920
well that would be a bit of a black eye

2303
01:23:47,189 --> 01:23:45,280
if it turns out that

2304
01:23:48,790 --> 01:23:47,199
that's all been a myth and i'm not

2305
01:23:51,669 --> 01:23:48,800
saying it is i'm just saying

2306
01:23:52,950 --> 01:23:51,679
that i understand the resistance yes so

2307
01:23:54,709 --> 01:23:52,960
you've got resistance on all

2308
01:23:56,070 --> 01:23:54,719
all kinds of levels they're not as you

2309
01:23:57,990 --> 01:23:56,080
said they're just not going to

2310
01:23:59,510 --> 01:23:58,000
welcome me with open arms say oh alan

2311
01:24:02,550 --> 01:23:59,520
you found something yeah come on

2312
01:24:05,750 --> 01:24:02,560
let's open it it's not going to happen

2313
01:24:09,510 --> 01:24:05,760
and i can understand why the same

2314
01:24:13,990 --> 01:24:09,520
by the same token i feel an obligation

2315
01:24:16,229 --> 01:24:14,000
that boy i know this is real

2316
01:24:17,669 --> 01:24:16,239
because i've worked on this at that time

2317
01:24:20,310 --> 01:24:17,679
i had worked on it for six

2318
01:24:22,149 --> 01:24:20,320
years six going on seven years now i've

2319
01:24:23,910 --> 01:24:22,159
been at it for 14 years

2320
01:24:25,910 --> 01:24:23,920
the whole picture changes yet again but

2321
01:24:29,270 --> 01:24:25,920
let's get to the point of the alter

2322
01:24:31,189 --> 01:24:29,280
at that point i knew he's telling us

2323
01:24:33,189 --> 01:24:31,199
and if he's telling us if he's gone to

2324
01:24:35,669 --> 01:24:33,199
all this trouble to him

2325
01:24:37,270 --> 01:24:35,679
to make this code to say please look

2326
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:37,280
inside the altar i've left something

2327
01:24:40,470 --> 01:24:38,880
that will answer a lot of questions for

2328
01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:40,480
you

2329
01:24:45,750 --> 01:24:43,679
well if we really love the man's work

2330
01:24:47,030 --> 01:24:45,760
don't you think we should do what he's

2331
01:24:50,229 --> 01:24:47,040
asking us to do

2332
01:24:51,669 --> 01:24:50,239
we should yeah he's asking us and yet

2333
01:24:52,229 --> 01:24:51,679
it's going to be resisted because of the

2334
01:24:55,189 --> 01:24:52,239
various

2335
01:24:56,310 --> 01:24:55,199
vested interests so i go over there and

2336
01:24:59,510 --> 01:24:56,320
then

2337
01:25:02,550 --> 01:24:59,520
i meet with the vicar and i

2338
01:25:03,350 --> 01:25:02,560
and i meet with uh various people uh the

2339
01:25:06,870 --> 01:25:03,360
head of the

2340
01:25:09,270 --> 01:25:06,880
shakespeare birthplace trust and

2341
01:25:11,350 --> 01:25:09,280
on and on i'm meeting resistance but i

2342
01:25:16,470 --> 01:25:11,360
am breaking through in some way i do

2343
01:25:18,390 --> 01:25:16,480
know that there's there's obviously

2344
01:25:19,750 --> 01:25:18,400
you know they're they're not corrupt

2345
01:25:22,310 --> 01:25:19,760
people they're not

2346
01:25:24,070 --> 01:25:22,320
they're not the illuminati they're not

2347
01:25:27,270 --> 01:25:24,080
they're twisting their

2348
01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:27,280
curved mustaches sing let's keep these

2349
01:25:31,110 --> 01:25:28,960
kids from the world they don't know

2350
01:25:32,629 --> 01:25:31,120
they don't know they don't know but

2351
01:25:35,990 --> 01:25:32,639
nevertheless there's that

2352
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:36,000
uncomfortable but what if we'd rather

2353
01:25:40,470 --> 01:25:37,199
not know

2354
01:25:42,709 --> 01:25:40,480
and so these two dynamics are at play

2355
01:25:43,669 --> 01:25:42,719
i did a lot of things to get into their

2356
01:25:47,350 --> 01:25:43,679
good graces i

2357
01:25:49,270 --> 01:25:47,360
i created a i designed a

2358
01:25:51,110 --> 01:25:49,280
calendar for them to sell in their gift

2359
01:25:51,830 --> 01:25:51,120
shops that would help them raise money

2360
01:25:54,470 --> 01:25:51,840
for

2361
01:25:55,430 --> 01:25:54,480
the church celestery windows and we

2362
01:25:57,910 --> 01:25:55,440
talked about doing

2363
01:25:59,990 --> 01:25:57,920
yes as you said a david jones concert to

2364
01:26:02,390 --> 01:26:00,000
raise money for them

2365
01:26:03,189 --> 01:26:02,400
and all of this was received very nicely

2366
01:26:06,870 --> 01:26:03,199
and of course i

2367
01:26:09,110 --> 01:26:06,880
i was genuinely trying to help them

2368
01:26:10,629 --> 01:26:09,120
because i could see that ideally now

2369
01:26:11,430 --> 01:26:10,639
you've got to be friends with people you

2370
01:26:13,830 --> 01:26:11,440
can't be

2371
01:26:15,830 --> 01:26:13,840
combative i couldn't go there saying

2372
01:26:16,629 --> 01:26:15,840
you're liars this is not the truth

2373
01:26:18,229 --> 01:26:16,639
because it's not

2374
01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:18,239
they're not lying they just don't know

2375
01:26:21,270 --> 01:26:19,600
right well they're just so it's just

2376
01:26:25,189 --> 01:26:21,280
interesting that they happen to be such

2377
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:25,199
fans of davey and you happen to

2378
01:26:29,750 --> 01:26:27,600
have an in there so you could kind of

2379
01:26:32,629 --> 01:26:29,760
like massage your way in that way

2380
01:26:34,149 --> 01:26:32,639
again yeah the divine story that is

2381
01:26:37,510 --> 01:26:34,159
being written

2382
01:26:39,990 --> 01:26:37,520
is not apparently random

2383
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:40,000
it's all connected on various levels and

2384
01:26:42,870 --> 01:26:41,840
use what you've got to him it's just

2385
01:26:44,870 --> 01:26:42,880
like oh i told them

2386
01:26:46,070 --> 01:26:44,880
i i've written a couple of david jones

2387
01:26:47,669 --> 01:26:46,080
books oh wow

2388
01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:47,679
shows and of course i'd give them signed

2389
01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:49,360
copies and talk about

2390
01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:50,800
we didn't do the david jones concert

2391
01:26:54,390 --> 01:26:52,560
because david passed unfortunately

2392
01:26:57,110 --> 01:26:54,400
before that could be accomplished but

2393
01:26:58,229 --> 01:26:57,120
point was they were getting to trust me

2394
01:27:01,110 --> 01:26:58,239
and know me and

2395
01:27:01,510 --> 01:27:01,120
and we liked each other i knew though

2396
01:27:05,189 --> 01:27:01,520
that

2397
01:27:09,270 --> 01:27:05,199
um in asking personally the vicar

2398
01:27:13,270 --> 01:27:09,280
and the other people involved

2399
01:27:15,110 --> 01:27:13,280
if i could actually do what would be

2400
01:27:16,229 --> 01:27:15,120
necessary which would radar scan the

2401
01:27:18,229 --> 01:27:16,239
altar

2402
01:27:19,830 --> 01:27:18,239
you know just just radar scanning you

2403
01:27:22,629 --> 01:27:19,840
don't need to harm it just

2404
01:27:23,110 --> 01:27:22,639
pass a ground penetrating radar over it

2405
01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:23,120
to

2406
01:27:27,590 --> 01:27:26,080
look and see if there's anything that

2407
01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:27,600
looks suspicious you know is there

2408
01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:30,080
anything in there

2409
01:27:35,350 --> 01:27:34,480
and there was a desire at first to say

2410
01:27:38,390 --> 01:27:35,360
yeah we really

2411
01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:38,400
should i feel i feel uncomfortable not

2412
01:27:44,070 --> 01:27:41,679
uh uh giving mass at that altar stone if

2413
01:27:44,709 --> 01:27:44,080
if because the bottom line is if there's

2414
01:27:47,750 --> 01:27:44,719
something

2415
01:27:49,830 --> 01:27:47,760
in there that shouldn't be in there it

2416
01:27:53,510 --> 01:27:49,840
is by definition then

2417
01:27:55,830 --> 01:27:53,520
desecrated meaning it should only have

2418
01:27:57,110 --> 01:27:55,840
the saints relics in there but the codes

2419
01:27:59,510 --> 01:27:57,120
are telling me

2420
01:28:02,629 --> 01:27:59,520
shakespeare and john d the real

2421
01:28:04,870 --> 01:28:02,639
shakespeare whoever that was and john d

2422
01:28:06,390 --> 01:28:04,880
must have put something in there because

2423
01:28:07,990 --> 01:28:06,400
they say so

2424
01:28:09,990 --> 01:28:08,000
say i've put something in here to tell

2425
01:28:11,189 --> 01:28:10,000
you about the story of why there's a

2426
01:28:14,709 --> 01:28:11,199
mystery

2427
01:28:16,470 --> 01:28:14,719
man from stratford

2428
01:28:18,790 --> 01:28:16,480
was a recusing catholic and couldn't

2429
01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:18,800
reveal his true catholicism

2430
01:28:22,310 --> 01:28:21,600
because we were now in elizabeth's reign

2431
01:28:25,510 --> 01:28:22,320
and

2432
01:28:28,310 --> 01:28:25,520
were

2433
01:28:29,750 --> 01:28:28,320
very troubled times so it might be that

2434
01:28:32,310 --> 01:28:29,760
it might just be that

2435
01:28:33,189 --> 01:28:32,320
but he had to hide his identity because

2436
01:28:35,910 --> 01:28:33,199
of that

2437
01:28:37,189 --> 01:28:35,920
so it needn't hurt the church but

2438
01:28:39,350 --> 01:28:37,199
nevertheless there's also the

2439
01:28:41,910 --> 01:28:39,360
possibility that it's someone else and

2440
01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:41,920
they don't want that possibility and so

2441
01:28:44,790 --> 01:28:43,520
i was in a very difficult position

2442
01:28:47,030 --> 01:28:44,800
myself

2443
01:28:47,990 --> 01:28:47,040
i didn't want to deceive these people

2444
01:28:50,229 --> 01:28:48,000
and in fact i

2445
01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:50,239
i told a couple of people that it was

2446
01:28:54,390 --> 01:28:52,239
definitely my intention

2447
01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:54,400
to get in there to scan it and i asked

2448
01:28:57,430 --> 01:28:56,000
permission of the vicar and he said he

2449
01:28:59,669 --> 01:28:57,440
couldn't give me permission but that i

2450
01:29:02,709 --> 01:28:59,679
should go and ask the bishop

2451
01:29:04,870 --> 01:29:02,719
of the diocese so i did

2452
01:29:06,470 --> 01:29:04,880
i had to make an executive decision

2453
01:29:08,149 --> 01:29:06,480
knowing full well that if i went and

2454
01:29:08,790 --> 01:29:08,159
asked the bishop of the diocese that's

2455
01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:08,800
that's

2456
01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:15,280
if that bishop said nah can't do it not

2457
01:29:17,910 --> 01:29:16,080
interested

2458
01:29:19,590 --> 01:29:17,920
i'd be done i would never gain access

2459
01:29:20,070 --> 01:29:19,600
again because they'd be suspicious of me

2460
01:29:21,750 --> 01:29:20,080
if i

2461
01:29:23,590 --> 01:29:21,760
you know i kept on coming to the church

2462
01:29:25,189 --> 01:29:23,600
and being close to the i'd already

2463
01:29:27,189 --> 01:29:25,199
filmed a couple of times there and

2464
01:29:28,870 --> 01:29:27,199
taken photographs up close of every

2465
01:29:31,430 --> 01:29:28,880
square inch of the altar

2466
01:29:32,870 --> 01:29:31,440
you know they they'd know then that alan

2467
01:29:34,310 --> 01:29:32,880
wants to get in there we'd better watch

2468
01:29:35,990 --> 01:29:34,320
him carefully i knew i would never have

2469
01:29:38,629 --> 01:29:36,000
an opportunity

2470
01:29:39,110 --> 01:29:38,639
to actually find the truth and it might

2471
01:29:41,750 --> 01:29:39,120
just be

2472
01:29:43,350 --> 01:29:41,760
cut off from me as a possibility and

2473
01:29:44,070 --> 01:29:43,360
therefore cut off from the world in

2474
01:29:46,390 --> 01:29:44,080
other words

2475
01:29:47,910 --> 01:29:46,400
i really had this obligation to say if

2476
01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:47,920
i'm going to do this i'm the only person

2477
01:29:52,870 --> 01:29:49,199
that suspects it's there

2478
01:29:54,149 --> 01:29:52,880
and knows the codes and i bet i i've got

2479
01:29:56,709 --> 01:29:54,159
to scan it

2480
01:29:57,990 --> 01:29:56,719
so i did go and scan it without

2481
01:29:59,910 --> 01:29:58,000
permission

2482
01:30:01,270 --> 01:29:59,920
because i knew i had to and then i went

2483
01:30:04,550 --> 01:30:01,280
to the bishop

2484
01:30:06,790 --> 01:30:04,560
later and asked permission and

2485
01:30:07,910 --> 01:30:06,800
was essentially denied which i knew

2486
01:30:09,910 --> 01:30:07,920
would happen

2487
01:30:11,910 --> 01:30:09,920
but at least i had the insurance of

2488
01:30:12,709 --> 01:30:11,920
having already scanned it and if he had

2489
01:30:14,470 --> 01:30:12,719
then said

2490
01:30:16,470 --> 01:30:14,480
yes yes you can then i would have just

2491
01:30:16,790 --> 01:30:16,480
given him a scan i went over in order to

2492
01:30:17,990 --> 01:30:16,800
say

2493
01:30:19,669 --> 01:30:18,000
all right well i've actually saved you

2494
01:30:21,270 --> 01:30:19,679
the trouble i actually did it so you

2495
01:30:22,790 --> 01:30:21,280
probably want to know how i did it right

2496
01:30:26,950 --> 01:30:22,800
[Music]

2497
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right so after basically six visits to

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stratford and

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and uh working with them for about four

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years

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i was in their good graces and they they

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liked me and they and they knew that i'd

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written a musical

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about shakespeare so i asked permission

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to actually

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produce um a show at

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shakespeare's grave right there in the

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chancel on

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shakespeare's birthday the official

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birthday april 23rd

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when there'd be a congregation and the

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whole town would be celebrating

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and i would play and perform excerpts

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from my

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musical bard now i actually did two

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trips in order to accomplish this and

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the first trip was

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basically a a dummy run a dress

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rehearsal

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of it in which uh there was an

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audience still and we put up i put up a

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banner in front of the altar advertising

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the music so it was a big band about 12

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foot by nine feet

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hiding the altar uh saying bard

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the musical by melanie william queen all

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right

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and then there's the piano in front of

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it and they were filming and they had

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this whole thing going on and for the

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last

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said let's now bear in mind what about

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the forensic system that sprays you well

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i'm doing a show there so i had to turn

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that off

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so that's turned off we've succeeded in

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not

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having that but of course the 24 hour

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cctv cameras are still happening

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and i had to disable them so in a spy

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movie one

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i would have gone up on a step ladder

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and sprayed black paint over the uh

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cctv cameras wouldn't i if this was uh

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oceans 14 15 16 whatever

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but this wasn't a spy movie this was

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happening in real life and i couldn't

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just spray over the cameras

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so i figured out a way we planned it we

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rehearsed it we got this whole thing and

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i said

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all right for the last number i want uh

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candles all around the piano

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i'm going to be singing this song to the

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shakespeare monument

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singing sonnet 18 the famous sonnet

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shall i compare thee

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to a summer's day and

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let's turn all the church lights off

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and do this by candlelight so it's utter

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darkness

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just the flicker of candlelight so we

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defeated the cctv camera

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and behind the scenes behind the banner

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whilst i'm singing i had a team

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somebody scanning with a radar and

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somebody else

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filming it in night vision so that we

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would have proof that we had done it

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we didn't even we didn't harm anything

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we put a a coating

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a paper coating over the ultra itself

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with lines on it to help a guy in this

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minimal minimal tiny flickering light of

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the candles to just show through where

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you could see the line so he knew he

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would scan

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straight scanned it i'm singing for

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three minutes

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all done finished they disappear

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applause applause applause thank you

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good night

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and that was it and we had the scan

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and i took that scan to two of the

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leading radar labs in america

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independently so that they both

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did the uh checking of in the analysis

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of it

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independent of each other and all i told

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them was that

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uh this was a scan of a piece of rock

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that we

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believe might have a hole in it that

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somebody might have put something in we

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didn't tell them where it was or what it

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was because

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they didn't need to know that i just you

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know obviously just said

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we've got some scan for you will you

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check it the analysis came back

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two weeks later both of the labs called

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me

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say

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you said you're looking for a small hole

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that should show up as a little blue

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area

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where the where the saints cavity is

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right where this little

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relic wave is uh they said we don't

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understand though it seems to be

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blue all over the the altar seems to

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even say the stone seems to be

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and of course i went yes

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that's a much bigger cavity than is

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supposed to be there much bigger

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250 times the size it's supposed to be

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and not only that

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and they both came up with the same

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result and in that result you can see

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and you can see these a little bit of

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this online i haven't posted them all

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but

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you can see that there are

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different gradations of density in in

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the scan that show you that there's

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something in there we can't say well we

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don't know why but it's

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it's full of stuff so yay

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i was like and the scan is right and the

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codes are right

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and it's all there and so then once i

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had that i went back to the church and i

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went to

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the bishop and told him the whole story

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but not the scanning and i said you know

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i believe

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these codes say that it's there will you

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give me permission to scan

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or i'll i i said i'll pay for it i'll

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you know and

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and it's yours i mean whatever's there

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is yours if there was something there

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as i say put it in a museum and and put

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it on a world tour

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king tuts too tour you know i mean it

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would be the biggest story in literature

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ever right you'd make a fortune but i

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could see in his

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you know in his eyes the glint of yeah

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and i might

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also find out that it's not our guy

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and so he said to me the bishop said

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i'll have to take it to a higher

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authority

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and i knew that was the kiss of death

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that's why i had already scanned it

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i mean i didn't want to do i i i didn't

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want to have to do this

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deceitful thing but i had to you know i

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it was a very awkward situation

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because honestly we would never know

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otherwise

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it would never come to light because i

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would never have been allowed to do it

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as i asked right the story is too

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important and what it reveals is too

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important so you really

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just kind of had to force your way in a

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little bit but

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i guess i'm the bad guy if you want to

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blame me

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but the point is i did it because for

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the world

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the pos for shakespeare he wanted us to

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know

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and as far as the world's concerned

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there are hundreds of millions of

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shakespeare fans who will say

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of course i want to know what

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shakespeare left for for us

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so on the website there's a voting

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mechanism where you go and

2683
01:37:08,629 --> 01:37:06,960
just say vote you know do you want it do

2684
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yes i want to know what shakespeare left

2685
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for us

2686
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or no i'm not interested let's leave it

2687
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another 400 years

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01:37:18,629 --> 01:37:17,119
bit of a tongue in cheek uh question and

2689
01:37:20,470 --> 01:37:18,639
we haven't really promoted it very much

2690
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so far but so far we've got about 12 000

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votes saying yes and maybe 200 saying no

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because that's about typical you'd get a

2693
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few people saying

2694
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no don't want to know there's a couple

2695
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of tricksters out there always but

2696
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that is really full circle the big

2697
01:37:36,550 --> 01:37:34,000
overarching story and

2698
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now it is just about trying to break

2699
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through that resistance

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generate interest and open that ultra

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stone hopefully in a public fashion

2702
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but that's basically where we are that's

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where we are and we have a plan

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and i can't go into it in great detail

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01:37:52,149 --> 01:37:50,880
yet but i can tell you that if you stay

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01:37:54,390 --> 01:37:52,159
tuned

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please go to please go to the website

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and vote and that is www.2b

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or not to be.org

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and and just go to click the button that

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says vote but look at the other videos

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that are there because

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you will see that this story goes even

2714
01:38:13,510 --> 01:38:11,679
deeper and i think we've got about 15

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01:38:16,070 --> 01:38:13,520
minutes left so maybe i can tell you how

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01:38:17,270 --> 01:38:16,080
how much deeper it goes but essentially

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that's the first

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01:38:24,790 --> 01:38:22,239
goal is if we can open that altar stone

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01:38:25,270 --> 01:38:24,800
well we've got to convince the church of

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01:38:27,270 --> 01:38:25,280
of the

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necessity to open that ultrastone and

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01:38:31,990 --> 01:38:28,960
there are various reasons why

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01:38:34,070 --> 01:38:32,000
in fact once this story gets known it

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01:38:36,229 --> 01:38:34,080
will be inevitable they have to open it

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because

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well on one level there is a spiritual

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obligation to because

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if there is something in there and i've

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now proven it with the scan

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that means that by definition this

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consecrated altar stone

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where they say mass is actually in a

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state of desecration

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if there's something else in it the

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church says catholic church says if

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01:39:01,910 --> 01:38:59,440
there's something else in there

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it must be reconsecrated it must be

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01:39:06,070 --> 01:39:02,560
opened

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01:39:09,750 --> 01:39:06,080
the offending materials must be removed

2740
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and it must be reconsecrated otherwise

2741
01:39:13,430 --> 01:39:11,440
you've got i mean you've got people

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praying at an altar that is

2743
01:39:16,790 --> 01:39:14,960
desecrated and that opens up an

2744
01:39:19,030 --> 01:39:16,800
interesting spiritual conundrum

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01:39:20,790 --> 01:39:19,040
are my prayers answered what about my

2746
01:39:23,350 --> 01:39:20,800
antagonist that i've been praying for is

2747
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she still in purgatory

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i mean really i mean seriously i'm not a

2749
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catholic but i'm not i'm not making fun

2750
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of that i'm just saying that

2751
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that's their belief and wow i i i can't

2752
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in fact the vicar said to me he felt

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01:39:38,310 --> 01:39:36,000
some

2754
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discomfort about the idea of continuing

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to

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um give mass at that altar

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01:39:46,310 --> 01:39:44,639
if there was something that he didn't

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01:39:48,950 --> 01:39:46,320
know that i'd scanned it and he didn't

2759
01:39:50,550 --> 01:39:48,960
see it but the point is still he had

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that understanding that well if that's

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the situation

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i'd better be about to be aware

2763
01:39:59,830 --> 01:39:58,159
that this makes me uncomfortable i so

2764
01:40:01,030 --> 01:39:59,840
they have a spiritual obligation to do

2765
01:40:04,390 --> 01:40:01,040
it

2766
01:40:07,270 --> 01:40:04,400
secondly you know what

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catholic church this is not technically

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a catholic church

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anymore it's what they call catholic

2770
01:40:13,109 --> 01:40:11,119
like

2771
01:40:15,669 --> 01:40:13,119
because it's church of england but that

2772
01:40:17,430 --> 01:40:15,679
doesn't mean the catholic church has no

2773
01:40:20,229 --> 01:40:17,440
vested interest in the outcome of this

2774
01:40:22,709 --> 01:40:20,239
because that is actually

2775
01:40:24,790 --> 01:40:22,719
a catholic alter still consecrated

2776
01:40:27,109 --> 01:40:24,800
originally in 1208

2777
01:40:28,870 --> 01:40:27,119
without going too much into the details

2778
01:40:31,109 --> 01:40:28,880
i think the catholic church could use a

2779
01:40:33,189 --> 01:40:31,119
good story right now

2780
01:40:34,950 --> 01:40:33,199
yeah they've got some bad ones out there

2781
01:40:36,550 --> 01:40:34,960
that they could definitely balance out

2782
01:40:38,070 --> 01:40:36,560
to say the least

2783
01:40:40,629 --> 01:40:38,080
so as we're starting to close this thing

2784
01:40:43,189 --> 01:40:40,639
out is there anything people can do

2785
01:40:44,950 --> 01:40:43,199
besides just vote because i worry that

2786
01:40:46,229 --> 01:40:44,960
you know a million people could vote and

2787
01:40:48,709 --> 01:40:46,239
i don't know that they would

2788
01:40:50,310 --> 01:40:48,719
care about some anonymous email

2789
01:40:53,030 --> 01:40:50,320
addresses and a big list

2790
01:40:53,990 --> 01:40:53,040
that was formed online i just feel like

2791
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:54,000
they could dismiss

2792
01:40:57,350 --> 01:40:55,840
that but i don't know i just feel people

2793
01:40:57,910 --> 01:40:57,360
are probably pretty charged up about

2794
01:41:00,870 --> 01:40:57,920
this

2795
01:41:02,709 --> 01:41:00,880
is there any further help or energy we

2796
01:41:04,070 --> 01:41:02,719
can put into it to try to push this

2797
01:41:05,990 --> 01:41:04,080
thing through

2798
01:41:07,350 --> 01:41:06,000
thank you i very much appreciate that

2799
01:41:08,149 --> 01:41:07,360
and all i would say for right now is

2800
01:41:10,950 --> 01:41:08,159
just do that

2801
01:41:11,270 --> 01:41:10,960
that that first step before that first

2802
01:41:13,430 --> 01:41:11,280
step

2803
01:41:14,790 --> 01:41:13,440
reaches much further i will have an

2804
01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:14,800
announcement

2805
01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:18,400
coming in in the new year as to a very

2806
01:41:22,229 --> 01:41:20,800
very very exciting development in this i

2807
01:41:23,109 --> 01:41:22,239
can't say it right now because it

2808
01:41:28,310 --> 01:41:23,119
involves

2809
01:41:31,590 --> 01:41:28,320
the church first to discuss it with them

2810
01:41:33,270 --> 01:41:31,600
but i will tell you it will we are go

2811
01:41:35,109 --> 01:41:33,280
we are going to find a way to open that

2812
01:41:38,149 --> 01:41:35,119
altar it is going to happen

2813
01:41:40,470 --> 01:41:38,159
and i i will be able to reveal that

2814
01:41:42,629 --> 01:41:40,480
um and i'm not being coy i honestly it's

2815
01:41:44,149 --> 01:41:42,639
just that it has to happen in a certain

2816
01:41:46,229 --> 01:41:44,159
order but things have been happening for

2817
01:41:48,470 --> 01:41:46,239
me very very very thick and fast

2818
01:41:50,709 --> 01:41:48,480
recently over the past couple of months

2819
01:41:53,430 --> 01:41:50,719
where i have helpers coming to the for

2820
01:41:55,910 --> 01:41:53,440
at last i've been working in on this in

2821
01:41:56,629 --> 01:41:55,920
almost complete seclusion for nearly 15

2822
01:41:58,950 --> 01:41:56,639
years and

2823
01:42:00,149 --> 01:41:58,960
i've been content to do that because

2824
01:42:01,910 --> 01:42:00,159
great joy

2825
01:42:03,350 --> 01:42:01,920
it's a privilege to be doing it it's a

2826
01:42:05,510 --> 01:42:03,360
joyful thing and i

2827
01:42:06,709 --> 01:42:05,520
laugh myself silly almost every time i

2828
01:42:09,990 --> 01:42:06,719
find something

2829
01:42:12,790 --> 01:42:10,000
i think oh my god this guy was so clever

2830
01:42:14,070 --> 01:42:12,800
oh my goodness beautiful elegant

2831
01:42:16,629 --> 01:42:14,080
wonderful way till the world

2832
01:42:17,189 --> 01:42:16,639
finds out about this but nevertheless

2833
01:42:19,350 --> 01:42:17,199
yes

2834
01:42:20,709 --> 01:42:19,360
it's not it's lovely i've always been

2835
01:42:22,709 --> 01:42:20,719
thinking

2836
01:42:24,709 --> 01:42:22,719
oh okay so this is a perfect way to end

2837
01:42:27,590 --> 01:42:24,719
it going back to that whole

2838
01:42:28,950 --> 01:42:27,600
full circle to manifesting you know once

2839
01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:28,960
i had that experience in the desert

2840
01:42:34,709 --> 01:42:31,360
driving back and i i was given that

2841
01:42:35,350 --> 01:42:34,719
that grace of recognizing that it's okay

2842
01:42:37,030 --> 01:42:35,360
you know

2843
01:42:38,870 --> 01:42:37,040
just ask me i'll give you i'll give you

2844
01:42:40,149 --> 01:42:38,880
a record deal i'll give you whatever you

2845
01:42:46,550 --> 01:42:40,159
ask for

2846
01:42:48,070 --> 01:42:46,560
because then when i need the next i can

2847
01:42:49,669 --> 01:42:48,080
just ask for that next mean and it's

2848
01:42:51,030 --> 01:42:49,679
always been fulfilled for me ever since

2849
01:42:53,910 --> 01:42:51,040
then

2850
01:42:54,390 --> 01:42:53,920
i mean no seriously honestly i can only

2851
01:42:56,790 --> 01:42:54,400
say

2852
01:42:58,229 --> 01:42:56,800
driving back from that experience i was

2853
01:42:59,990 --> 01:42:58,239
pulling i was coming into los

2854
01:43:01,910 --> 01:43:00,000
angeles los angeles area and i was

2855
01:43:03,669 --> 01:43:01,920
looking at things

2856
01:43:05,189 --> 01:43:03,679
that i i was in such a change

2857
01:43:06,310 --> 01:43:05,199
consciousness i honestly didn't

2858
01:43:09,189 --> 01:43:06,320
understand i looked at

2859
01:43:11,350 --> 01:43:09,199
bank i don't know which one wells fargo

2860
01:43:13,510 --> 01:43:11,360
chase whatever i saw a bank

2861
01:43:15,430 --> 01:43:13,520
i didn't understand what it meant i

2862
01:43:19,030 --> 01:43:15,440
thought what bank what is a

2863
01:43:22,149 --> 01:43:19,040
bank why would you even need a bank i've

2864
01:43:24,149 --> 01:43:22,159
i've got this bank in my heart

2865
01:43:25,270 --> 01:43:24,159
i can just ask for what i need and it's

2866
01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:25,280
there

2867
01:43:28,709 --> 01:43:27,840
that's the that's the state that i was

2868
01:43:31,270 --> 01:43:28,719
given

2869
01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:31,280
which has to say faded you know it was

2870
01:43:35,590 --> 01:43:32,560
but it was just like

2871
01:43:38,709 --> 01:43:35,600
why would you it's a there's another

2872
01:43:42,629 --> 01:43:38,719
level of consciousness of

2873
01:43:46,390 --> 01:43:42,639
that we all are so loved

2874
01:43:49,430 --> 01:43:46,400
that we don't we don't even know the

2875
01:43:51,910 --> 01:43:49,440
first step of it of how

2876
01:43:52,470 --> 01:43:51,920
how deeply that what that means that we

2877
01:44:00,709 --> 01:43:52,480
are

2878
01:44:04,870 --> 01:44:00,719
uncover it and so

2879
01:44:09,030 --> 01:44:08,310
ah you know this this common thought is

2880
01:44:12,310 --> 01:44:09,040
that

2881
01:44:14,950 --> 01:44:12,320
there's the writer is

2882
01:44:16,390 --> 01:44:14,960
hidden inside and there's a mask

2883
01:44:19,109 --> 01:44:16,400
covering him there's this

2884
01:44:20,790 --> 01:44:19,119
shakespeare mask and but there's

2885
01:44:23,510 --> 01:44:20,800
somebody that's the real writer

2886
01:44:25,030 --> 01:44:23,520
somewhere inside hidden that he's used

2887
01:44:25,750 --> 01:44:25,040
this mask that's the common thought when

2888
01:44:28,709 --> 01:44:25,760
you look at

2889
01:44:29,109 --> 01:44:28,719
the marlow story and the beer story in

2890
01:44:32,390 --> 01:44:29,119
the

2891
01:44:35,750 --> 01:44:32,400
bacon story everybody assumes that this

2892
01:44:39,270 --> 01:44:35,760
man from stratford is just a cover

2893
01:44:39,750 --> 01:44:39,280
and that he was somehow devious that he

2894
01:44:42,950 --> 01:44:39,760
stole

2895
01:44:45,750 --> 01:44:42,960
the identity of the real shakespeare and

2896
01:44:47,189 --> 01:44:45,760
i just believe it's not that at all

2897
01:44:50,470 --> 01:44:47,199
whoever it was he came

2898
01:44:52,070 --> 01:44:50,480
to actually give us a metaphor and that

2899
01:44:55,750 --> 01:44:52,080
metaphor is

2900
01:44:58,870 --> 01:44:55,760
the real truth the veer

2901
01:45:01,270 --> 01:44:58,880
the diver of the word of the holy of

2902
01:45:04,470 --> 01:45:01,280
holies ultrastone

2903
01:45:05,430 --> 01:45:04,480
that's what's inside all of us but at

2904
01:45:07,669 --> 01:45:05,440
the same time we

2905
01:45:08,790 --> 01:45:07,679
are undoubtedly wandering around like

2906
01:45:10,790 --> 01:45:08,800
idiots

2907
01:45:12,149 --> 01:45:10,800
right we're all bottom in midsummer

2908
01:45:13,910 --> 01:45:12,159
night's dream wearing an asses head

2909
01:45:15,430 --> 01:45:13,920
aren't we

2910
01:45:17,109 --> 01:45:15,440
we're in a state of delusion we don't

2911
01:45:18,470 --> 01:45:17,119
know who we are

2912
01:45:21,189 --> 01:45:18,480
right and that's what midsummer night's

2913
01:45:24,790 --> 01:45:21,199
dream is about the donkey head

2914
01:45:28,470 --> 01:45:24,800
right well we're all asses but

2915
01:45:31,990 --> 01:45:28,480
he's telling us no i didn't get this

2916
01:45:34,470 --> 01:45:32,000
i my identity was not stolen by this

2917
01:45:37,910 --> 01:45:34,480
this country bumpkin character this

2918
01:45:40,629 --> 01:45:37,920
bottom this person who has no education

2919
01:45:41,510 --> 01:45:40,639
and never traveled anywhere with the

2920
01:45:44,950 --> 01:45:41,520
same

2921
01:45:48,229 --> 01:45:44,960
being it's all one that truth

2922
01:45:52,149 --> 01:45:48,239
that the veer is inside and you

2923
01:45:55,189 --> 01:45:52,159
are it you are the whole thing

2924
01:45:56,790 --> 01:45:55,199
we are that deluded character in this

2925
01:45:57,270 --> 01:45:56,800
seminar stream wandering around but we

2926
01:46:00,310 --> 01:45:57,280
are

2927
01:46:03,510 --> 01:46:00,320
also the real

2928
01:46:06,709 --> 01:46:03,520
divine writer inside he hid his

2929
01:46:07,270 --> 01:46:06,719
identity behind a mask in order to tell

2930
01:46:10,709 --> 01:46:07,280
us

2931
01:46:12,390 --> 01:46:10,719
a spiritual truth that is that is the

2932
01:46:15,270 --> 01:46:12,400
human condition we all

2933
01:46:16,470 --> 01:46:15,280
are that right and that's what's so

2934
01:46:19,830 --> 01:46:16,480
comforting to me

2935
01:46:23,030 --> 01:46:19,840
is wow this is a great

2936
01:46:23,510 --> 01:46:23,040
being a great soul who comes to earth to

2937
01:46:26,790 --> 01:46:23,520
actually

2938
01:46:29,109 --> 01:46:26,800
live out play out and act

2939
01:46:31,590 --> 01:46:29,119
something that will tell us the truth

2940
01:46:34,310 --> 01:46:31,600
and he actually hides his own identity

2941
01:46:36,229 --> 01:46:34,320
as part of that in order to convey it

2942
01:46:36,709 --> 01:46:36,239
once we find it and we go oh i couldn't

2943
01:46:40,310 --> 01:46:36,719
say

2944
01:46:43,109 --> 01:46:40,320
so that is yeah that makes sense to me

2945
01:46:44,629 --> 01:46:43,119
the spiritual story of well you know

2946
01:46:47,189 --> 01:46:44,639
jesus christ say we

2947
01:46:48,390 --> 01:46:47,199
know ye not that ye are gods and these

2948
01:46:51,830 --> 01:46:48,400
things that i do

2949
01:46:55,510 --> 01:46:51,840
ye shall do greater things we're all god

2950
01:46:57,590 --> 01:46:55,520
you are it's inside you

2951
01:46:59,109 --> 01:46:57,600
but you have forgotten because you're

2952
01:47:01,350 --> 01:46:59,119
part of the play

2953
01:47:03,189 --> 01:47:01,360
and the whole journey the puzzle is to

2954
01:47:05,350 --> 01:47:03,199
refined it

2955
01:47:06,310 --> 01:47:05,360
and that's what he's done with these

2956
01:47:08,629 --> 01:47:06,320
codes

2957
01:47:09,510 --> 01:47:08,639
and the hiding of the identity it's just

2958
01:47:11,669 --> 01:47:09,520
the same thing as

2959
01:47:13,669 --> 01:47:11,679
creation and when you realize it goes

2960
01:47:17,590 --> 01:47:13,679
back to because otherwise how else

2961
01:47:19,270 --> 01:47:17,600
can you make sense of things like what

2962
01:47:20,950 --> 01:47:19,280
there are beings who knew there may be

2963
01:47:23,430 --> 01:47:20,960
symbols for saturn and jupiter

2964
01:47:24,790 --> 01:47:23,440
that knew the volumes of those planets

2965
01:47:27,830 --> 01:47:24,800
or that the original

2966
01:47:29,669 --> 01:47:27,840
name for the holy of holies is the divir

2967
01:47:31,430 --> 01:47:29,679
that's two thousand three thousand years

2968
01:47:33,590 --> 01:47:31,440
old

2969
01:47:36,790 --> 01:47:33,600
why does someone incarnate now with the

2970
01:47:39,350 --> 01:47:36,800
name de vere

2971
01:47:41,669 --> 01:47:39,360
and hide the veer the truth inside the

2972
01:47:44,709 --> 01:47:41,679
altar which is the de vir

2973
01:47:45,270 --> 01:47:44,719
yeah it's also interrupt it's an enigma

2974
01:47:49,830 --> 01:47:45,280
within an

2975
01:47:51,830 --> 01:47:49,840
enigma within a name but it's a puzzle

2976
01:47:55,189 --> 01:47:51,840
the same puzzle that we all face

2977
01:47:58,470 --> 01:47:55,199
in trying to find out who we are

2978
01:48:01,109 --> 01:47:58,480
that's the shakespeare story

2979
01:48:02,709 --> 01:48:01,119
and that's why it's such a great fun

2980
01:48:05,189 --> 01:48:02,719
thing so it's a great

2981
01:48:06,629 --> 01:48:05,199
privilege to have been to be involved in

2982
01:48:08,390 --> 01:48:06,639
it and i honestly think

2983
01:48:09,830 --> 01:48:08,400
we'll we're going to find out more and

2984
01:48:11,430 --> 01:48:09,840
more and more so you

2985
01:48:12,870 --> 01:48:11,440
you asked i guess the ultimate question

2986
01:48:13,990 --> 01:48:12,880
i'm trying to answer is you said so what

2987
01:48:15,669 --> 01:48:14,000
can you do

2988
01:48:17,669 --> 01:48:15,679
bring it to other people's attention

2989
01:48:19,030 --> 01:48:17,679
please whatever way you can and just

2990
01:48:19,830 --> 01:48:19,040
have them do the vote because i can

2991
01:48:22,149 --> 01:48:19,840
promise you

2992
01:48:23,430 --> 01:48:22,159
within two or three or four months at

2993
01:48:25,430 --> 01:48:23,440
the most

2994
01:48:26,870 --> 01:48:25,440
we're going to renounce something public

2995
01:48:29,189 --> 01:48:26,880
that is going to be very

2996
01:48:30,070 --> 01:48:29,199
very big and it's going to be an

2997
01:48:31,990 --> 01:48:30,080
alliance

2998
01:48:33,830 --> 01:48:32,000
where we are going to get the church to

2999
01:48:34,790 --> 01:48:33,840
open it and they will feel comfortable

3000
01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:34,800
opening it

3001
01:48:37,910 --> 01:48:37,199
because they will be treated properly as

3002
01:48:39,990 --> 01:48:37,920
well

3003
01:48:41,430 --> 01:48:40,000
it's it's not we're not out to get them

3004
01:48:44,870 --> 01:48:41,440
about to just bring them

3005
01:48:46,950 --> 01:48:44,880
bring the truth to the world

3006
01:48:48,950 --> 01:48:46,960
and it will it is a beautiful truth it's

3007
01:48:51,510 --> 01:48:48,960
not something where somebody stole

3008
01:48:53,270 --> 01:48:51,520
some identity it's just it's a beautiful

3009
01:48:55,270 --> 01:48:53,280
it's a metaphor

3010
01:48:56,709 --> 01:48:55,280
wrapped up in a wonderful story as you

3011
01:48:57,270 --> 01:48:56,719
would expect from shakespeare i mean

3012
01:49:00,629 --> 01:48:57,280
it's just

3013
01:49:02,950 --> 01:49:00,639
drama

3014
01:49:05,350 --> 01:49:02,960
well cheers to all that alan your work

3015
01:49:06,709 --> 01:49:05,360
is clearly amazing i can't believe

3016
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:06,719
you've been able to

3017
01:49:10,470 --> 01:49:08,480
decode all this stuff and i'm just

3018
01:49:12,390 --> 01:49:10,480
itching to get that damn altar stone

3019
01:49:13,189 --> 01:49:12,400
open now i really appreciate you being

3020
01:49:15,350 --> 01:49:13,199
here

3021
01:49:16,470 --> 01:49:15,360
keep it up and we will await the

3022
01:49:19,510 --> 01:49:16,480
announcement and

3023
01:49:20,070 --> 01:49:19,520
vote in the meantime thank you thank you

3024
01:49:22,070 --> 01:49:20,080
greg i

3025
01:49:23,750 --> 01:49:22,080
appreciate it very much the opportunity

3026
01:49:25,910 --> 01:49:23,760
to share it with you

3027
01:49:26,790 --> 01:49:25,920
with your listeners and uh yeah i

3028
01:49:28,149 --> 01:49:26,800
promise you and

3029
01:49:29,910 --> 01:49:28,159
i will let you know and we'll have

3030
01:49:32,629 --> 01:49:29,920
another show on it where we can

3031
01:49:34,870 --> 01:49:32,639
reveal it to everybody thank you i look

3032
01:49:38,629 --> 01:49:34,880
forward to it until then take care

3033
01:49:41,109 --> 01:49:38,639
you too man sweet red dead redemption

3034
01:49:45,589 --> 01:49:41,119
week people boom goes the dynamite

3035
01:49:47,910 --> 01:49:45,599
alan greene and the shakespeare mystery

3036
01:49:49,830 --> 01:49:47,920
a very unique kind of show involving

3037
01:49:51,589 --> 01:49:49,840
some of those shadowy reoccurring

3038
01:49:54,870 --> 01:49:51,599
characters we seem to run into

3039
01:49:55,990 --> 01:49:54,880
quite often and this whole story really

3040
01:49:58,629 --> 01:49:56,000
does point to a

3041
01:49:59,990 --> 01:49:58,639
real actionable step towards uncovering

3042
01:50:02,310 --> 01:50:00,000
a mystery

3043
01:50:04,149 --> 01:50:02,320
that's kind of been my theme lately i'm

3044
01:50:05,189 --> 01:50:04,159
a little over these stories that don't

3045
01:50:08,070 --> 01:50:05,199
lead us anywhere

3046
01:50:10,390 --> 01:50:08,080
and i want to spend time on stories that

3047
01:50:13,270 --> 01:50:10,400
might speak to something verifiable

3048
01:50:14,870 --> 01:50:13,280
whether it's scans in helsinki or scans

3049
01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:14,880
in an altar stone of the church of the

3050
01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:17,440
holy trinity in stratford england

3051
01:50:21,189 --> 01:50:20,320
i think this mystery is fascinating it

3052
01:50:23,990 --> 01:50:21,199
really is like

3053
01:50:26,149 --> 01:50:24,000
a real life national treasure adventure

3054
01:50:26,709 --> 01:50:26,159
and i love the boldness of doing that

3055
01:50:29,910 --> 01:50:26,719
scan

3056
01:50:31,189 --> 01:50:29,920
under the radar very cunning to enact

3057
01:50:33,830 --> 01:50:31,199
such a magic trick

3058
01:50:35,430 --> 01:50:33,840
such a kansas city shuffle by hosting

3059
01:50:38,310 --> 01:50:35,440
that live performance that

3060
01:50:39,510 --> 01:50:38,320
has everyone's attention truly a danny

3061
01:50:41,030 --> 01:50:39,520
ocean move

3062
01:50:43,589 --> 01:50:41,040
it's very much like something out of a

3063
01:50:45,669 --> 01:50:43,599
movie and i am just in awe

3064
01:50:46,790 --> 01:50:45,679
of allen's ability to pull that off and

3065
01:50:49,430 --> 01:50:46,800
just the whole

3066
01:50:51,109 --> 01:50:49,440
decoding in general honestly we would be

3067
01:50:51,990 --> 01:50:51,119
lucky to uncover something half as

3068
01:50:55,430 --> 01:50:52,000
compelling in our

3069
01:50:58,470 --> 01:50:55,440
lifetimes if you watch his videos about

3070
01:50:59,030 --> 01:50:58,480
the whole saga and the sonnet structure

3071
01:51:02,790 --> 01:50:59,040
and just

3072
01:51:04,629 --> 01:51:02,800
all the decoding it really is something

3073
01:51:06,709 --> 01:51:04,639
he should be proud of i've got a lot of

3074
01:51:09,350 --> 01:51:06,719
respect for the work

3075
01:51:11,750 --> 01:51:09,360
also as an episode of thc this show

3076
01:51:12,310 --> 01:51:11,760
clocks in closer to 2 hours and 20

3077
01:51:15,030 --> 01:51:12,320
minutes

3078
01:51:15,430 --> 01:51:15,040
overall and it really didn't fit that

3079
01:51:18,550 --> 01:51:15,440
well

3080
01:51:20,470 --> 01:51:18,560
into our traditional framework here

3081
01:51:22,870 --> 01:51:20,480
but the beauty of this structure is that

3082
01:51:23,510 --> 01:51:22,880
it does have a lot of flexibility and

3083
01:51:26,550 --> 01:51:23,520
yes

3084
01:51:28,229 --> 01:51:26,560
plus people pay for an extra hour an

3085
01:51:30,550 --> 01:51:28,239
exclusive hour

3086
01:51:32,070 --> 01:51:30,560
and as plus members i do hope most are

3087
01:51:34,790 --> 01:51:32,080
just happy with getting a good

3088
01:51:36,709 --> 01:51:34,800
show that's over two hours and i hope

3089
01:51:37,030 --> 01:51:36,719
that's more important than how much of

3090
01:51:39,910 --> 01:51:37,040
it

3091
01:51:41,430 --> 01:51:39,920
other people didn't get to hear but i

3092
01:51:43,109 --> 01:51:41,440
couldn't just cut it off at the 60

3093
01:51:44,550 --> 01:51:43,119
minute mark this time or people just

3094
01:51:47,030 --> 01:51:44,560
wouldn't have gotten

3095
01:51:48,790 --> 01:51:47,040
to the heart of the story we would have

3096
01:51:50,229 --> 01:51:48,800
only been halfway through allen's

3097
01:51:51,910 --> 01:51:50,239
musical career and that would be a

3098
01:51:54,310 --> 01:51:51,920
terrible place to leave

3099
01:51:55,510 --> 01:51:54,320
free listeners hanging and i do care

3100
01:51:58,229 --> 01:51:55,520
about that

3101
01:51:58,550 --> 01:51:58,239
i always try to make sure that the show

3102
01:52:01,030 --> 01:51:58,560
is

3103
01:52:03,109 --> 01:52:01,040
cut in a way that still feels complete

3104
01:52:05,350 --> 01:52:03,119
on the free side of things

3105
01:52:07,030 --> 01:52:05,360
because i'm not looking to scam anyone

3106
01:52:10,070 --> 01:52:07,040
or trick them or

3107
01:52:12,310 --> 01:52:10,080
overly tease them i don't want you to

3108
01:52:14,470 --> 01:52:12,320
end the free show frustrated

3109
01:52:15,750 --> 01:52:14,480
i've listened to shows like that this is

3110
01:52:18,470 --> 01:52:15,760
just a model

3111
01:52:19,910 --> 01:52:18,480
that provides consistency and autonomy

3112
01:52:21,669 --> 01:52:19,920
for me and keeps us away from

3113
01:52:23,830 --> 01:52:21,679
advertisers

3114
01:52:26,310 --> 01:52:23,840
i always want to be fair and i remember

3115
01:52:29,270 --> 01:52:26,320
the days when i was just lucky to have

3116
01:52:30,790 --> 01:52:29,280
a couple thousand people's attention and

3117
01:52:32,390 --> 01:52:30,800
i still feel that way i don't want to

3118
01:52:33,990 --> 01:52:32,400
waste your time and i don't want to

3119
01:52:37,030 --> 01:52:34,000
disrespect you by

3120
01:52:40,229 --> 01:52:37,040
giving you half a story so the free show

3121
01:52:42,149 --> 01:52:40,239
is a little extended for sure and while

3122
01:52:44,070 --> 01:52:42,159
it isn't the main attraction

3123
01:52:45,990 --> 01:52:44,080
in this story i do appreciate some of

3124
01:52:47,669 --> 01:52:46,000
the insights we got from a walk through

3125
01:52:49,430 --> 01:52:47,679
of allen's career

3126
01:52:51,629 --> 01:52:49,440
and it ties into several interesting

3127
01:52:54,470 --> 01:52:51,639
points and provides a nice template for

3128
01:52:55,350 --> 01:52:54,480
manifestation and the power of thinking

3129
01:52:58,149 --> 01:52:55,360
you can

3130
01:52:59,350 --> 01:52:58,159
how synchronicities work i just thought

3131
01:53:01,910 --> 01:52:59,360
we would cover that

3132
01:53:03,510 --> 01:53:01,920
aspect in about 15 minutes rather than

3133
01:53:05,109 --> 01:53:03,520
45 minutes

3134
01:53:07,510 --> 01:53:05,119
and you probably heard me try to hurry

3135
01:53:09,669 --> 01:53:07,520
it along at times but the reality is

3136
01:53:11,589 --> 01:53:09,679
if a story is only half told you kind of

3137
01:53:14,709 --> 01:53:11,599
just need to go with the flow

3138
01:53:16,550 --> 01:53:14,719
and let it be told but again how

3139
01:53:17,030 --> 01:53:16,560
interesting that his producer at one

3140
01:53:18,950 --> 01:53:17,040
point

3141
01:53:20,950 --> 01:53:18,960
only wanted to invest in the release of

3142
01:53:22,709 --> 01:53:20,960
a song about an underage girl

3143
01:53:24,470 --> 01:53:22,719
i thought that was worth filing away in

3144
01:53:26,709 --> 01:53:24,480
the context of some of the other shows

3145
01:53:28,950 --> 01:53:26,719
we've done about the music industry

3146
01:53:30,470 --> 01:53:28,960
and he didn't throw this in today but in

3147
01:53:31,990 --> 01:53:30,480
other tellings of the story i've heard

3148
01:53:33,510 --> 01:53:32,000
alan mentioned that they wanted him to

3149
01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:33,520
work under the persona

3150
01:53:39,510 --> 01:53:37,520
mad jack which obviously phonetically

3151
01:53:41,589 --> 01:53:39,520
magic and that's also kind of

3152
01:53:43,510 --> 01:53:41,599
interesting maybe it's just word play

3153
01:53:46,629 --> 01:53:43,520
you know how marketers can be

3154
01:53:49,990 --> 01:53:46,639
but of all the words to invoke

3155
01:53:51,750 --> 01:53:50,000
it's that one fun little synchro mystic

3156
01:53:53,510 --> 01:53:51,760
connection with chris knowles work as

3157
01:53:54,870 --> 01:53:53,520
well i didn't plan on bringing that up

3158
01:53:57,189 --> 01:53:54,880
in the interview

3159
01:53:58,870 --> 01:53:57,199
but alan broached it and so i tried to

3160
01:54:01,750 --> 01:53:58,880
just run through it real quick

3161
01:54:03,990 --> 01:54:01,760
but it is funny how it hits the liz

3162
01:54:04,950 --> 01:54:04,000
frazier stuff from two sides the monkeys

3163
01:54:07,510 --> 01:54:04,960
tv show

3164
01:54:08,470 --> 01:54:07,520
and this mortal coil being a shakespeare

3165
01:54:10,310 --> 01:54:08,480
quote

3166
01:54:11,830 --> 01:54:10,320
i definitely plan to talk to you about

3167
01:54:15,030 --> 01:54:11,840
that here in the wrap

3168
01:54:17,030 --> 01:54:15,040
up of course and i do like

3169
01:54:18,790 --> 01:54:17,040
allen's life story because it's so true

3170
01:54:22,070 --> 01:54:18,800
that had he not developed himself

3171
01:54:25,030 --> 01:54:22,080
as a musical artist and formed such

3172
01:54:26,629 --> 01:54:25,040
a strong and statistically improbable

3173
01:54:29,270 --> 01:54:26,639
bond with davey jones

3174
01:54:31,109 --> 01:54:29,280
he would not have been able to get that

3175
01:54:32,629 --> 01:54:31,119
scan of the altar

3176
01:54:35,030 --> 01:54:32,639
and that's really the point of going

3177
01:54:36,870 --> 01:54:35,040
into his personal career history

3178
01:54:39,430 --> 01:54:36,880
picking up on these things that later

3179
01:54:41,270 --> 01:54:39,440
become insane synchronicities

3180
01:54:43,430 --> 01:54:41,280
and yeah the pacing might have been a

3181
01:54:44,709 --> 01:54:43,440
bit off today but as i said we started

3182
01:54:47,109 --> 01:54:44,719
trying to get this interview done

3183
01:54:48,550 --> 01:54:47,119
over a year ago and then those wildfires

3184
01:54:51,510 --> 01:54:48,560
hit california

3185
01:54:54,550 --> 01:54:51,520
so maybe the details of the thc show

3186
01:54:57,189 --> 01:54:54,560
structure were not fresh in alan's mind

3187
01:54:57,830 --> 01:54:57,199
why should they be that's my concern but

3188
01:54:59,830 --> 01:54:57,840
i think

3189
01:55:01,669 --> 01:54:59,840
if you're with me at this point and you

3190
01:55:04,709 --> 01:55:01,679
got to the part where it all comes

3191
01:55:05,990 --> 01:55:04,719
full circle around this altar stone then

3192
01:55:07,589 --> 01:55:06,000
i think you've been introduced to

3193
01:55:09,990 --> 01:55:07,599
something pretty provocative

3194
01:55:11,589 --> 01:55:10,000
and i do urge everyone to just go to

3195
01:55:14,709 --> 01:55:11,599
youtube and watch

3196
01:55:16,070 --> 01:55:14,719
the stratford heist it's really great to

3197
01:55:18,629 --> 01:55:16,080
see the visuals

3198
01:55:19,830 --> 01:55:18,639
of the scan and how the concert and

3199
01:55:21,910 --> 01:55:19,840
banner were set up

3200
01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:21,920
it's 13 minutes and it is a great

3201
01:55:26,390 --> 01:55:23,440
follow-up if you were

3202
01:55:27,990 --> 01:55:26,400
intrigued by this shakespearean saga

3203
01:55:30,310 --> 01:55:28,000
also vote on the website

3204
01:55:31,910 --> 01:55:30,320
link will be in the show notes because

3205
01:55:35,030 --> 01:55:31,920
it's important to alan

3206
01:55:37,990 --> 01:55:35,040
i'm not as convinced of the value of the

3207
01:55:40,149 --> 01:55:38,000
voting as alan is but it is not my story

3208
01:55:42,229 --> 01:55:40,159
and this is what he is asking of us and

3209
01:55:43,510 --> 01:55:42,239
i hope we can give him that since he

3210
01:55:46,709 --> 01:55:43,520
gave us such a

3211
01:55:49,750 --> 01:55:46,719
compelling story and just

3212
01:55:51,510 --> 01:55:49,760
as a token of respect for his dedication

3213
01:55:54,229 --> 01:55:51,520
and i hope it does become an important

3214
01:55:55,830 --> 01:55:54,239
aspect of getting to this next step

3215
01:55:57,270 --> 01:55:55,840
i also really look forward to hearing

3216
01:55:58,950 --> 01:55:57,280
this announcement as well

3217
01:56:00,950 --> 01:55:58,960
that's great that we have something to

3218
01:56:04,310 --> 01:56:00,960
look forward to

3219
01:56:08,149 --> 01:56:04,320
but though our free plus split was thus

3220
01:56:10,470 --> 01:56:08,159
a bit askew plus people did get to hear

3221
01:56:12,390 --> 01:56:10,480
some interesting added elements like how

3222
01:56:13,990 --> 01:56:12,400
the mathematical code relates to the

3223
01:56:17,030 --> 01:56:14,000
great pyramid and its overall

3224
01:56:18,950 --> 01:56:17,040
historical importance we also talked

3225
01:56:20,950 --> 01:56:18,960
about the alchemical connection

3226
01:56:22,550 --> 01:56:20,960
the underlying value of knowing

3227
01:56:25,189 --> 01:56:22,560
reality's blueprints

3228
01:56:27,189 --> 01:56:25,199
why alan doesn't see sir francis bacon

3229
01:56:27,990 --> 01:56:27,199
as the true identity of shakespeare and

3230
01:56:31,270 --> 01:56:28,000
also the

3231
01:56:31,830 --> 01:56:31,280
saturn jupiter connection that is a wild

3232
01:56:34,550 --> 01:56:31,840
one

3233
01:56:35,510 --> 01:56:34,560
so there are still a lot of compelling

3234
01:56:37,189 --> 01:56:35,520
added elements

3235
01:56:40,149 --> 01:56:37,199
in the plush show plenty of reasons to

3236
01:56:43,189 --> 01:56:40,159
sign up thehiresidechatsplus.com

3237
01:56:46,470 --> 01:56:43,199
don't forget we also knocked out one

3238
01:56:48,950 --> 01:56:46,480
hell of a thc joint session last week

3239
01:56:49,750 --> 01:56:48,960
i got quite tipsy by the end of that

3240
01:56:51,910 --> 01:56:49,760
don't know

3241
01:56:53,430 --> 01:56:51,920
how important or necessary that was but

3242
01:56:55,109 --> 01:56:53,440
it did happen

3243
01:56:57,350 --> 01:56:55,119
i walked out to have dinner with my wife

3244
01:56:59,430 --> 01:56:57,360
and she was not expecting

3245
01:57:00,950 --> 01:56:59,440
what she got but that's what happens

3246
01:57:02,390 --> 01:57:00,960
when i'm having a good time shooting the

3247
01:57:04,629 --> 01:57:02,400
breeze with you guys

3248
01:57:05,910 --> 01:57:04,639
and man we really did have some high

3249
01:57:08,709 --> 01:57:05,920
quality calls

3250
01:57:10,870 --> 01:57:08,719
i'm really humbled to just see how

3251
01:57:13,189 --> 01:57:10,880
knowledgeable some of the listeners are

3252
01:57:14,070 --> 01:57:13,199
how awesome their life experiences have

3253
01:57:16,709 --> 01:57:14,080
been

3254
01:57:17,910 --> 01:57:16,719
it really was a great time i have had

3255
01:57:20,550 --> 01:57:17,920
some plus people

3256
01:57:22,229 --> 01:57:20,560
express frustration or confusion over

3257
01:57:23,990 --> 01:57:22,239
not finding the information about it i

3258
01:57:26,870 --> 01:57:24,000
have seen your comments

3259
01:57:28,629 --> 01:57:26,880
and that's gotta be my bad of course i

3260
01:57:29,669 --> 01:57:28,639
mentioned it on every show this month

3261
01:57:31,830 --> 01:57:29,679
october 25th

3262
01:57:33,750 --> 01:57:31,840
at 7 pm but that doesn't tell you how to

3263
01:57:35,750 --> 01:57:33,760
find it or how to call in

3264
01:57:38,629 --> 01:57:35,760
and i did post the information on

3265
01:57:41,030 --> 01:57:38,639
facebook and twitter hours before

3266
01:57:42,870 --> 01:57:41,040
i know not a platform that i like but

3267
01:57:45,030 --> 01:57:42,880
this is kind of the only

3268
01:57:47,270 --> 01:57:45,040
big way to communicate with an audience

3269
01:57:49,510 --> 01:57:47,280
outside of the actual show

3270
01:57:51,350 --> 01:57:49,520
so please you know a few hours before

3271
01:57:51,990 --> 01:57:51,360
the joint sessions just look at my

3272
01:57:55,350 --> 01:57:52,000
facebook

3273
01:57:58,229 --> 01:57:55,360
or twitter hold your nose and dive into

3274
01:57:59,830 --> 01:57:58,239
these social media dystopian platforms

3275
01:58:00,149 --> 01:57:59,840
just to get that information and i'm

3276
01:58:01,990 --> 01:58:00,159
sure

3277
01:58:04,390 --> 01:58:02,000
it will be the top post there you won't

3278
01:58:06,950 --> 01:58:04,400
have to be there for long

3279
01:58:09,030 --> 01:58:06,960
i will also post the details on the plus

3280
01:58:09,430 --> 01:58:09,040
site like a regular post and then i'll

3281
01:58:11,430 --> 01:58:09,440
just

3282
01:58:13,109 --> 01:58:11,440
change that post to the actual joint

3283
01:58:15,990 --> 01:58:13,119
session when it's ready to go up

3284
01:58:18,149 --> 01:58:16,000
all i really do is try to cut down on

3285
01:58:20,229 --> 01:58:18,159
that down time at the beginning

3286
01:58:21,669 --> 01:58:20,239
you don't need seven minutes of me

3287
01:58:23,109 --> 01:58:21,679
trying to get the damn thing to go live

3288
01:58:25,589 --> 01:58:23,119
on youtube

3289
01:58:27,589 --> 01:58:25,599
and the joint sessions as a live

3290
01:58:30,709 --> 01:58:27,599
unprepared fourth thing

3291
01:58:32,229 --> 01:58:30,719
are a bit slow and casual but as an

3292
01:58:33,910 --> 01:58:32,239
extra and as a way

3293
01:58:35,910 --> 01:58:33,920
to spend time with the audience in a

3294
01:58:37,589 --> 01:58:35,920
productive and positive way i think it

3295
01:58:40,310 --> 01:58:37,599
is a lot of fun

3296
01:58:42,229 --> 01:58:40,320
i've also put a reminder in the monthly

3297
01:58:44,390 --> 01:58:42,239
higher side herald you can sign up for

3298
01:58:46,070 --> 01:58:44,400
that at thehiresidechats.com

3299
01:58:47,669 --> 01:58:46,080
one monthly newsletter should be the

3300
01:58:50,709 --> 01:58:47,679
first week of the month

3301
01:58:51,270 --> 01:58:50,719
and that will have joint session info a

3302
01:58:54,470 --> 01:58:51,280
future

3303
01:58:55,830 --> 01:58:54,480
guest disclosure probably a critic of

3304
01:58:57,589 --> 01:58:55,840
the month just for fun

3305
01:58:59,510 --> 01:58:57,599
and some of my ramblings about the

3306
01:59:01,589 --> 01:58:59,520
months offerings and

3307
01:59:02,709 --> 01:59:01,599
probably some deals in there too maybe

3308
01:59:05,830 --> 01:59:02,719
for plus but

3309
01:59:06,790 --> 01:59:05,840
definitely probably stuff for the merch

3310
01:59:08,709 --> 01:59:06,800
store

3311
01:59:10,550 --> 01:59:08,719
i did get a new shipment of grinders

3312
01:59:11,830 --> 01:59:10,560
they were sold out for a few weeks but i

3313
01:59:13,430 --> 01:59:11,840
have more now

3314
01:59:15,109 --> 01:59:13,440
who couldn't use a fresh high quality

3315
01:59:17,430 --> 01:59:15,119
four chamber metal grinder with a keef

3316
01:59:21,270 --> 01:59:17,440
scoop at the bottom for good measure

3317
01:59:23,910 --> 01:59:21,280
i don't know anyone but that is our show

3318
01:59:24,950 --> 01:59:23,920
a very unique saga happy to have alan

3319
01:59:27,109 --> 01:59:24,960
here to tell it

3320
01:59:29,510 --> 01:59:27,119
i hope we all had a good time and i will

3321
01:59:30,149 --> 01:59:29,520
see you tomorrow october 31st with

3322
01:59:32,790 --> 01:59:30,159
another

3323
01:59:33,990 --> 01:59:32,800
show so as scar would say be prepared

3324
01:59:36,229 --> 01:59:34,000
and i'll see you then

3325
01:59:37,990 --> 01:59:36,239
your move shakespearean secret keepers

3326
01:59:39,669 --> 01:59:38,000
mainstream story sustainers and

3327
01:59:41,669 --> 01:59:39,679
religious authorities standing in the

3328
01:59:46,149 --> 01:59:41,679
way of the big reveal

3329
01:59:47,990 --> 01:59:46,159
you're this is important hear

3330
01:59:52,229 --> 01:59:48,000
what i say

3331
01:59:55,990 --> 01:59:52,239
i'm trying to tell you it's not paranoia

3332
01:59:57,270 --> 01:59:56,000
and not in my head it's just the hard

3333
02:00:01,189 --> 01:59:57,280
truth

3334
02:00:04,709 --> 02:00:01,199
knocked on your door while i still care

3335
02:00:05,910 --> 02:00:04,719
to ask you a question cause i know your

3336
02:00:09,109 --> 02:00:05,920
head is still

3337
02:00:13,350 --> 02:00:11,030
don't be shaped till you slaughter for

3338
02:00:15,669 --> 02:00:13,360
the rest of your life oppressed

3339
02:00:17,669 --> 02:00:15,679
oppressed but you're getting woke you

3340
02:00:18,229 --> 02:00:17,679
say you don't want to be stressed until

3341
02:00:21,750 --> 02:00:18,239
the day

3342
02:00:23,510 --> 02:00:21,760
you die tough luck my friend did you get

3343
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:23,520
the memo

3344
02:00:30,070 --> 02:00:26,490
can't you say that we're so

3345
02:00:35,830 --> 02:00:33,589
can't you just admit we're screwed

3346
02:00:41,160 --> 02:00:35,840
i'm gonna tell you this anyway it's a

3347
02:00:44,070 --> 02:00:41,170
scary dark world

3348
02:00:47,189 --> 02:00:44,080
[Music]

3349
02:00:55,180 --> 02:00:47,199
don't think we'll be okay can't you see

3350
02:00:56,390 --> 02:00:55,190
that we're so

3351
02:00:58,870 --> 02:00:56,400
[Music]

3352
02:01:00,310 --> 02:00:58,880
you sit and wish but we don't have a

3353
02:01:03,589 --> 02:01:00,320
choice

3354
02:01:07,109 --> 02:01:03,599
it seems we're stuck here but you can

3355
02:01:11,270 --> 02:01:07,119
find noses round out the noise

3356
02:01:12,629 --> 02:01:11,280
now use that alter end up your magic

3357
02:01:15,910 --> 02:01:12,639
game

3358
02:01:19,510 --> 02:01:15,920
and listen to thc you know

3359
02:01:26,950 --> 02:01:19,520
you go with the entities

3360
02:01:59,510 --> 02:01:33,430
[Music]

3361
02:02:04,040 --> 02:01:59,520
don't think we'll be okay can't you see

3362
02:02:16,830 --> 02:02:04,050
that we're so

3363
02:02:16,840 --> 02:02:23,790
school

3364
02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:27,189
[Music]

3365
02:02:32,149 --> 02:02:29,270
don't be sheep to your slaughter for the

3366
02:02:34,149 --> 02:02:32,159
rest of your life

3367
02:02:36,310 --> 02:02:34,159
but you're getting woke you say you

3368
02:02:39,830 --> 02:02:36,320
don't want to be stressed until the day

3369
02:02:41,589 --> 02:02:39,840
you die to fluff my friend did you get

3370
02:02:44,870 --> 02:02:41,599
the memo

3371
02:02:46,220 --> 02:02:44,880
can't you say that we're so screwed

3372
02:02:58,830 --> 02:02:46,230
don't

3373
02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:02,149
anyway